We've made some changes
to The Sunday Times
Very odd to meet them in civilian clothes, this mismatched duo so familiar to us in assorted and elaborate costumes, wigs and make-up. Matt Lucas, pink-domed and solicitous, jeans teamed with the jacket of a Gieves & Hawkes suit, is the more outwardly friendly of the two. Or is it just that polo-shirted David Walliams’s vertiginous cheekbones and feline eyes give an impression of a mind working, judgments being made and stored away, when actually all is benign? Whatever, at 9am and in this prelude to what for them is one more day in an autumn-long, brainstorming-and-writing stint (preparation for their first live tour in eight years, followed by a West End theatre residency), breakfast is the pressing concern.
Once it’s ordered, they sit back to agree that yes, these are weird times. Suddenly, paparazzi are waiting outside their nearby office, for instance. “But where’s the value in pictures of us emerging to walk down the road?” wonders Walliams. “If a car suddenly mounted the pavement, yes, but otherwise those photos will never be seen.” Yet he, a single man in recent times linked with a Colin Farrell-worthy list of famous women, appears more comfortable with the degree of attention generated by our current collective love affair with their comic creation, Little Britain, than does his collaborator, who also lives nearby, but quietly and with a male partner. “Personally, I wouldn’t mind if I were never photographed as myself ever again,” admits Lucas, speaking to his cutlery and place mat.
Both feel they’re experiencing what might well be a once-in-a-career degree of attention and affirmation. “It’s like driving a car when the brakes have gone,” says Walliams. “You’re still steering, but you’re not in control any more. The programme’s not ours now. Once your inventions are being quoted in schools and offices, they have a life of their own, independent of anything you might do or say. This level of success has far exceeded our expectations, but what I’ve realised is that it’s not us who’ve made it a hit – it’s the public. Once they like and start talking about something, a certain magic happens. And it might never occur again in our lifetimes.” They’ve even inspired their own tribute act, Littler Britain. Notes Lucas, “They seemed quite good from what I saw on Richard & Judy.”
What those impersonators are thriving on (like the rest of us, in our water-cooler moments) is a cast of characters who are distillations/magnifications of the fellow citizens we each of us live among or even, perish the thought, of ourselves. Cheerfully absurd, occasionally grotesque, they include Lucas’s brazen Vicky Pollard (her catchphrase opener “Yeah but, no but...”), already a media shorthand for teenage ASBO-magnets nationwide; Walliams’s totally unconvincing, Edwardian-themed transvestite Emily Howard (“I’m a laydee!”); the respective two of them as bogusly wheelchair-bound Andy (“Yeah, I know”/“I want that one”) and his well-meaning carer, Lou. They are loved, the two of them, for having come up with this unusually vivid, of-the-era portfolio. “The public like the show, but I doubt they actually care that much about us,” corrects the cautious Walliams.
Their respective mums are loving the stardust-sprinkled aspect of their sons’ success, however. “It’s nice seeing the excitement it brings your family,” admits Walliams. “You can’t be cynical about things when you see it through their eyes. I took my mother to the Baftas, and introducing her to everyone was a real pleasure, because no one’s going to be rude to your ma, are they? What was funny was that she expected me to know everyone in the room. ‘Introduce me to Stephen Fry,’ she said, and that was fine because I’d met him before. ‘And Jonathan Ross,’ which was also OK because we’ve been on his show. But, ‘And now Alan Titchmarsh…’ There was no reason for him to know me from Adam, but I ended up chasing him up the stairs and saying, ‘Excuse me, but could you talk to my mother?’ which he did, and very, very nicely.”
Yes, but Diana Lucas and Kathleen Walliams are also made uncomfortable by Little Britain’s edgier elements – the character Jason fancying his mate’s nan, for example, or the Bitty sketches in which Mrs Proctor (actress Geraldine James) publicly breastfeeds her grown son, Harvey. Asked if a parental censor sits on their shoulders, protesting “But you can’t write that!”, Lucas nods vigorously. “Emphatically, yes,” he says, “but sometimes you’ve got to ignore them. Strands of the show are supposed to have shock value, like the Vomiting Ladies, or something in the third series I’m not even going to tell you about. My mum loves the VLs [Judy and Maggie, twin-setted bigots who throw up with force when confronted by anyone whose class, colour or sexuality they disapprove of] until that moment when they start to vomit, but that’s the whole point of the characters, isn’t it?”
How the new breed of location based mobile services can find your nearest cashpoint, restaurant or wi-fi hotspot
Enjoy screenings of all the classic films you love, plus take advantage of two-for-one tickets
We explore leisure activities that are safe and suitable for all of the family
Times Online's new TV show helps you make the right decisions for your pet
Are you California dreaming? Explore the wonders of the Golden State. Also enter our fantastic competition
See the best entries in this year's competition
Your brain is capable of more than you might think...
An interactive preview of the brand new For Your Eyes Only exhibition
The latest travel news plus the best hotels and gadgets for business travellers

Love Sudoku? Play our brand new interactive game: with added functionality and daily prizes

Are you irritable when you return from work? Drained of emotion? You could be suffering from boreout
Prepare for some shock and awe, petrol lovers. Despite the greens trying to wipe it out, the car is about to offer us the most exciting year ever
We've trawled the brochures and websites to find this summer’s best holidays for every taste and budget

Times Exclusive Tickets £25

2006
£189,500
NW England
2008/08
£169,950
NW England
2007/57
£35,000
South East England
Great car insurance deals online
Circa £82,000 per annum
Birmingham Women's Hospital
Birmingham
To £28k
Barclaycard
Various (outside London)
£
Up to £66,000 per annum
Hertfordshire County Council
South East
To £38k
Barclaycard
Northampton/Liverpool
2 Bathrooms, Balcony and Garden
Beautiful Gardens w/ stunning Thames Views
Dining, Shopping & Riverside Pk
Mortgages, bank acc & money transfers to help you buy abroad
Explore mystical Jordan
From £1030 for 7nts 4*
to USA's Most Cosmopolitan City; San Francisco!
£POA
Book Now for Winter 08/09 and Get 10% off!
Great travel insurance deals online
Contact our advertising team for advertising and sponsorship in Times Online, The Times and The Sunday Times. Search globrix.com to buy or rent UK property.
© Copyright 2008 Times Newspapers Ltd.
This service is provided on Times Newspapers' standard Terms and Conditions. Please read our Privacy Policy.To inquire about a licence to reproduce material from Times Online, The Times or The Sunday Times, click here.This website is published by a member of the News International Group. News International Limited, 1 Virginia St, London E98 1XY, is the holding company for the News International group and is registered in England No 81701. VAT number GB 243 8054 69.