Ben Hoyle, Arts Reporter
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For a competitive film buff, the only pleasure greater than chatting about a favourite work with friends is discovering that they have not seen it.
Enter the “film bluff”. One in ten Britons now lies about the films they have seen, to appear more cultured and intellectual, according to research carried out for the social networking site myfilms.com.
The Godfather, Apocalypse Now and Schindler’s List are three of the films many people pretend to have seen and loved, when the embarrassing truth is that they much prefer Ghost, Dirty Dancingand The Sound of Music.
A survey of 2,489 Britons revealed that men are the most dishonest about film, being 17 per cent more likely than women to massage the guilty secrets of their viewing habits.
Men are also twice as likely to “film-drop” — bring up films they have seen — in order to show off, with The Shawshank Redemption the favourite title to mention. Casino Royale, The Green Mile, The Lord of the Rings trilogy and The Godfather are the other favoured names to drop into the conversation, according to the poll.
Almost a quarter of those questioned (23 per cent) judge people on what films they like, rising to 37 per cent among 18 to 24-year-olds.
Some 40 per cent of young Britons openly criticise people about their film tastes and 39 per cent admit to having had a heated argument about a film being good or not.
Tom Beaumont-Griffin, the creator of myfilms.com, said: “Films are so much a part of our everyday conversation that it’s no great surprise that we tend to bluff about what films we’ve seen to keep up with our colleagues, friends and family.
“The fact that we judge people on their film tastes is testament that films play such an important part in our lives on a daily basis.
“More and more people are conversing over the variety of films they have seen — not just the big summer blockbusters, but more quirky and offbeat films — to demonstrate their cultural prowess.”
The survey was conducted by YouGov, which interviewed a representative sample of 2,489 people in February.
The films we wish we’d seen and the ones we did
Top five films to lie about seeing
1 Schindler’s List
2 The Da Vinci Code
3 The Godfather
4 Apocalypse Now
5 Gone with the Wind
Top five films people like but dislike admitting to
1 The Sound Of Music
2 Ghost
3 Dirty Dancing
4 Love Actually
5 Harry Potter
Top five “film-drops”
1 The Shawshank Redemption
2 The Green Mile
3 The Lord Of The Rings
4 The Godfather
5 Casino Royale
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Kar Wai Wong is the new way to say it just because of the changeover in the entire system (Zhang Ziyi is now Ziyi Zhang) mainly because Chinese names start with the family name first (Wong is Wong Kar Wai's family name, Kar Wai is his first name). To keep it less confusing, I believe they changed it so that the family name comes last and the first name comes first. However, I do think Wong Kar Wai prefers to be called Wong Kar Wai especially since he usually uses his initials as WKW. Personally, I don't really care either way what the "proper" way to say it is; I still continue to call him Wong Kar Wai. And when you say his name in Chinese, it WOULD actually be Wong Kar Wai and not Kar Wai Wong so I think the system worked better before...
As for this, kind of interesting. I was always curious as to how many people lie about this...Da Vinci Code is definitely a headscratcher. That movie was awful, why anyone would want to pretend to have seen it is beyond me...
Jon, Ottawa, Canada
Maybe people lie about The Da Vinci Code by saying that they haven't seen it when they really have. I know I'm ashamed to have seen it.
Ally Morgan, Glasgow, Scotland
They probably wanted to lie about NOT seeing it (while in reality they had...)
Giorgos, Nottingham,
I'm shocked Lawrence of Arabia isn't among those titles dropped for intellectual reasons. The Da Vinci Code?? Both book and film are utter trash and I'm not a religious person. Just trash. Read Holy Blood, Holy Grail if you want a good Indiana Jones-like dig.
Gone With the Wind is an extraordinary cinematic accomplishment, despite whatever political hang-ups some might have about it. I don't agree with soft-peddling slavery either, but as a film, there is not a wasted shot in it.
As for the other films, Green Mile is a non-film, and Casino Royale - wtf?? Only Shawshank deserves the power to be name dropped. And God help me if I hear how "great" The Godfather is again.
Greatest film ever made: Murnau's FAUST. Pure cinema. Pure imagination. Nothing after it compares. Blows Lord of the Rings off the screen, and does so in less than two hours. How's that for a "film drop?"
Sean, Burbank, California
I never lie about what I have or haven't seen. I would DEFINITELY never lie and say that I've seen The Da Vinci Code.
Oh, and I've never seen Sound of Music, hate Dirty Dancing, but would love to see Love Actually.
Jim Vincent, Duncan, Oklahoma
Why would anyone try to bluff about seeing a movie? That's the real question. In this era of information, a fraud can be spotted a mile away. We attend at least one movie a week, and still can't see all we want to see because we live in a fairly rural area. There are tons of good films we've missed, but instead of lie about it, we concede the point and agree we should add it to our Netflix list.
(As for the 3 lists above, we've (truly!) seen all but GWTW and Sound of Music. I've actually seen bits and pieces of both but not all the way thru.)
Maybe those who bluff are trying to fit in and be a part of the pathetic sheep that would rather see big $$ flicks than smaller quality films. As for me, I'm often proud to say that I haven't seen over-hyped tripe, and then I counter by asking if they've seen my latest hidden gem. Most of the time, everyone benefits just by being turned on to other films they wouldn't normallly see.
Redd, Minnesota,
While I loved both Schindler's List and The Godfather, I occasionally suspect I am the only movie addict over 30 who found Gone With The Wind a slow-moving, tedious clunker of a film which tried desperately to live up to the expectations of the reading public (and while the book was a lengthy-but-light novel, Mitchell was no Mark Twain). I'm stunned to discover that people who vehemently debate me may not have seen the thing in the first place!
Dan, West Hartford, CT USA
Actually, it's easy to tell the film buffs from the movie bluffs are. Just ask them to name the funniest scene in "Schindler's List".
Angel Songco Jr. , Manila, Philippines
Wow--what a crazy list in every way. I've seen all of the top 5, and love "The Godfather" and like "Apocalypse Now"
(Though I think "Full Metal Jacket" is a much better film about the Viet-Nam War.) I actually DO detest all of the next five except for "Harry Potter" which I watched for about ten minutes on DVD and gave up on. (Don't like to say I hate something I didn't watch all the way through, but it just wasn't worth my time...) Of the last five I have also seen them all, and HATE them all except the "The Godfather" and "Casino Royale", which was a fun entertainment. Sheesh, if you're gonna lie about seeing a film it might as well be a good one--I agree with the fellow who mentioned "Aguirre The Wrath of God"--now THAT is a great film!
Senta, Los Angeles, CA. USA
No, Kar Wai Wong is a correct way of saying his name.
Fingerling, Minoq,
I must admit, I'm shocked people like about the Da Vinci Code too! But maybe that says it all... the people who lie about films really have no idea what they're talking about because they just don't watch films, so they guess and go with what seems popular. They know the book was a big hit, so they assume the film must be too! How wrong they are though...
Carol, Leeds,
This is hilarious. I haven't seen any of the top 5 'lie' films and I probably wouldn't admit to seeing The Da Vinci Code even if I had. As a fan of Asian cinematic obscurata, soviet propaganda films and 60s exploitation, I have no problem admitting that I love the Harry Potter movies or anything starring Hayley Mills. Some films are art and some are entertainment. They're both valid, so what's the big deal?
Antinous, Palm Springs, California
I'm from the Philippines. I have seen everything on that list including ones I'm supposed to be ashamed of seeing except Dirty Dancing.
If I haven't seen a good movie, I admit it. There are simply too many movies to watch. I haven't seen Il Vitelloni, for instance.
Actually, I would go out of my way to see a movie I dislike, solely for the right to say, "I paid good money to see it and that gives me the right to b*tch about it!" But it's a chore.
By the way, most of the titles on the list are extremely mainstream. What happend to Los Olvidados, Aguirre the Wrath of God, or Orwell's Othello? (to name drop a few?). The films mentioned are a bit-meh. This is the equivalent of an America's top forty Pop charts list, characterless, flavorless, unadventurous and insipid.
Quentin Tarantado, Quezon City, Philippines
Love Actually doesn't have a comma in the title.
David, Kanas City, Kanas
I'm usally not that guy but Mark, the director is called Wong Kar-Wai :-)
Jonathan, Jönköping, Sweden
There is no way I would lie about seeing The Da Vinci Code, the book was good but the film.... Oh dear... I have not seen it and I wont be bothering either.
Casino Royale? the original with Peter Sellers and David Niven or the latest incarnation with Daniel Craig? Heh.
Gone with the Wind is crap in my opinion.... "Frankly My Dear I dont give a damn".... about this overrated film....but I have seen it and all the others....
And if you declare you are "in to" films and you have not seen the Godfather........ Thats like saying you are into football (soccer for those in the US) but dont know who Pele is....
Ian, Colchester, Essex
Love Actually does NOT have a comma in the title, actually. I know this because I own the DVD and I checked the box. And yes, I am heterosexual.
People also lie about not liking the Star Wars prequels. Yes, they're disappointed in them, but true Star Wars fans don't HATE them.
I think people who say that The Godfather is the best movie ever made tend to be lying. It's a good movie, but the best? I can't even comprehend how this is even possible to imagine.
Scooter, Montreal, Canada
I've seen 12 of these films, I just couldn't hang with Harry potter and I feel asleep during Love, Actually. Whoops I couldn't hang with Lord of the rings either. I actually liked The DA Vinci Code...Loved the Green Mile...I owne the Godfather. The film I have the biggest problem with on this list would probably be casino royal. It was a good new century Bond film.
Thomas E Holland, Sunnyvale, California
Having seen all 14 movies on the lists (Godfather is on twice), my first reaction is that I trust anyone who actually likes "Dirty Dancing" will continue to keep it a secret, Baby.
David, Dallas, USA/TX
Love, Actually has a comma in the title.
I don't understand why people would rather lie about seeing movies from Spielberg, Copolla, Darabont, Jackson, and Howard than Kieslowski, Kurosawa, Truffaut, Antonioni, Bergman, Clouzot, Godard, Tarkovsky, Fellini, Kar Wai Wong, David Lean, I'd even settle for Gilliam.
Absurd.
Mark, Gem City,
I am surprised that The Godfather is on the list of films people lie about seeing but tThe Da Vinci Code?! I agree with Jim O'Connell entirely except maybe I wouldn't put it as nicely.
Deborah, Belfast,
"Top five films to lie about seeing
2 The Da Vinci Code"
Is that possible? The Da Vinci Code was a mindless little piece of fluff. I would sooner lie to say that I had never seen it.
Jim O'Connell, Tokyo, Japan