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He is the most influential director of his generation — a former video shop assistant whose films conquered Hollywood with a winning blend of violence, great dialogue and memorable soundtracks.
But where once the arrival of a new Quentin Tarantino film was a highlight of the cinema year, his latest work is languishing in limbo without a British release date.
For months Grindhouse, a $100 million (£50 million) double bill of nostalgic horror films made with his friend Robert Rodriguez, had been scheduled to arrive in British cinemas on June 1. After disastrous box-office takings in the United States, it has been withdrawn while Harvey and Bob Weinstein, the producers, try to formulate a rescue strategy.
A spokesman for Momentum Pictures, the film’s British distributor, said yesterday: “We are reviewing the release date and the release plans in the UK. It will definitely be released here but we don’t know in what form.”
Barry Norman, the veteran film critic, said that the decision to change the release date at such short notice was “almost inevitably” a sign that the finished product had disappointed its backers.
For Tarantino, who dazzled audiences with Reservoir Dogs, his debut in 1992, and who won the Palme d’Or at the Cannes Film Festival with his next film, Pulp Fiction, it is a humiliating development. “This doesn’t often happen to a big-name director,” Norman added. “The omens aren’t good.”
Grindhouse was envisaged as a homage to the sleazy, low budget films that both Tarantino and Rodriguez grew up with and the seedy cinemas where they used to watch them in late-night double-bills.
Rodriguez, the director of El Mariachi, Spy Kids and Sin City, made Planet Terror, a gory zombie-flick with a ludicrous body count and a go-go dancing heroine who has a machinegun in place of a leg. Tarantino’s film Death Proof, which most critics have preferred, features a spectacular car chase and stars Kurt Russell as a serial killer.
Both films are artfully scratched and include “missing reels”, to evoke viewing conditions in the grindhouse cinemas of the 1970s.
Before the American cinema release this month, Bob Weinstein emphasised the ambitious scope of the package, which covers more than three hours. “The whole theatrical business is looking for something new, a little showmanship,” he said.
Grindhouse has proved too long and too obscure for main-stream audiences. It has taken only $23 million in three weeks in American cinemas, with half of that over the Easter weekend, and the Weinstein brothers are considering whether to slice it into two separate films.
Michael Gubbins, the editor of Screen International, the film industry magazine, said: “I can’t see them not releasing it [in the UK] but the size of the release will be interesting. The plan is to split it into two and hope that Cannes [where Tarantino will show Death Proof next month] gives it a push. But they’re running into blockbuster season, have two films on their hands instead of one and no evidence that either is going to be more of a hit than the original.”
Peter Rainer, the film critic for the Christian Science Monitor newspaper, said that many Hollywood insiders were delighted that Tarantino had finally had a flop. “A lot of people want him to fail because of his success and his abrasive, self-infatuated personality,” he said.
“I don’t think that this one failure puts him out of the game, but if he has another film like this then it will be a different story.”
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I watched this film because Tarantino is an edgy directer that writes interesting character parts driven by original storylines - 'Pulp Fiction' to name but one, and I absolutely detest slasher movies, they are the dregs of the film industry...any amateur director could pull off a slasher movie cheaply...BUT...I watched this film begrudgingly and got all of it's SUBTLE humour (which is probably why most Americans didn't) and I thought it was beautifully and delicately made, intricate in a way that only the most knowledgable director could have put his attentions to. I still hate slasher movies but this is so well done that anyone who doesn't get it for what it is - a beautiful piece of artwork, simply doesn't understand what film-making is about. This has increased my good opinion of Tarantino not reduced!!!
phil morgan, newton abbot, devon, United Kingdom
I saw the original version in it's entirety and it's unfortunate that it's being released as 2 seperate features. With both movies running together and some spoof movie trailers, directed by such luminaries as Eli Roth, inserted in the middle the experience was a lot of fun. And for those of us who remember double features pretty nostalgic. It's a pity that British audiences will miss out on that experience.
It'll be interesting to see, if or how they incorporate the trailers. It would be a shame if they were left out as the Eli Roth trailer for Thanksgiving is hilarious.
John Tracey, New York, USA, New York
In my opinion, there is no one out there with the caliber of film making as Tarantino. Theres nothing like him. Whether its good or bad you still gotta love him because hes going out on that limb that none of these other limp @#$% directors have the balls to go for. If you've not seen this film i just have to tell you its the best. I love it and this movie definately makes you say. Thats Quentin for you.
Wendy, Staunton, va
If split into 2 films as rumoured for the U.K. i for one will not bother. The very reason it was made as a double bill, was and is the reason not to split them up. I see it as a very cynical way of trying to claw back more money for the Weinsteins. Now we will have two seperate cinema releases, two seperate dvd`s, two `Special Edition` dvd`s, two `Unrated/Uncut dvd`s, at least one `Grindhouse Double Bill` release and thats just in the U.K.
We are still waiting for the `Ultimate` double bill release for Quents `Kill Bill`.
Just say no. Dont go when they`re released seperately.
The distributors may get the message and release it as it was meant to be seen.
Neil Haggar, Eastbourne., U.K.
Unfortunately SAL, it will be spit in two for UK audiences and now we have to wait until the 21st of september to just see 'Death Proof' on it's own. Who knows about 'Planet Terror'! This will go against the whole point of a double feature and if the producers thought it did badly in the US, it's only gonna get alot worse. But don't worry, by the time 'Death Proof' is released in cinemas in the UK, you will be able to import 'Grindhouse' (the full version) from the america.
John Stanworth, Telford, United Kingdom
i'm so jealous, all you guys have seen it!! WHEN is it coming to uk??? i really hope it isn't split in two as there's nothing i like more that an extra long movie sesh.
BRING IT TO THE UK
SAL, BIRMINGHAM, UK
I don't see how people can call Grindhouse too long, Lord of the rings has about the same running time and nobody complained about that. As for people walking out of the cinema after the first movie, that doesn't make sense because the trailer makes it perfectly clear that it's two films. So if they knew anything about what they were going to watch, they would know that. It is a shame that Grindhouse has been delayed in the UK again because iv'e been antisapating this film since last year and judging from the trailers, it looks like the best movie ever. Unlike all the new hollywood movies bieng released, Grindhouse has a great storyline and tryed somethig different.
John Stanworth, Telford, United Kingdom
Wow i can't believe some people on here call themselves Tarantino fans but didn't go see Grindhouse because they don't like Grindhouse movies. Very selfish and believe me, Grindhouse was and is one of the best films of the year. It was amazing and i don't care if Tarantino is cocky, he has a reason to be, his movies are simply amazing. Wake up and see a very entertaining film even if the regular movie goer says not to. They settle for nothing more than the crap studio films spit out, Grindhouse is something special, its different, its no holds barred, its unpredictable and its laugh out loud funny, GO SEE IT!
Jordan Clark, Delta, Canada
I love Tarantino's movies and have watched them over and over. But it seems that an homage to grindhouse movies, by its very definition, shouldn't cost substantially more to make. The project may have amused these two directors but most people have just not been interested.
JN, Asheville, US
I am disappointed that film goers are not going to get the opportunity to decide for themselves, by the sound of things.
Chris Samwell, Tauranga, New Zealand
For anyone who's old enough to have gone to the kinds of work that Grindhouse represents, there's no point in seeing the films. We already know what's there.
For anyone not old enough, the joke would probably go over their heads.
I knew as soon as I saw a billboard for the concept that it was, a) a really cool, clever idea, and b) of no interest to actually go see.
Paul , Los Angeles, Ca
Tarantino topped himself with Death Proof. I've never seen an action film that is artsy, memberising, and yet still every bit an exciting action film. Seeing Grindhouse together with both films and trailers was an exciting experience.
Simon, Wilshire, USA
When Alfred Hitchcock made PSYCHO, he set out to prove that within the limitations of a B-movie budget and schedule, he could make a GOOD film. With GRINDHOUSE, Tarrantino and Rodriguez apparently set out to prove they could spend millions and still end up with something as stupid and violent as something that the likes of AIP and Crown International made for a pocketful of nickels.
Something has gone seriously wrong with our commercial filmmakers . . .
Matt, Deltona, FL USA
I think that the article is rather revisionist. People are always saying that the latest Tarantino-related film represents his "first" flop, whether it's "Natural Born Killers", "From Dusk to Dawn", "Four Rooms", "Jackie Brown" or "Kill Bill". The man is the Radiohead of cinema: blessed and cursed by the almost legendary appeal of his early work.
I haven't seen "Grindhouse" and it looks as though I'll have to wait for DVD release now. Personally, I wouldn't go and see the film split into two, nor would I buy the title split into two. (I loved "Kill Bill", but didn't splash out for the DVDs until they were being sold at firesale prices ... there's no point in encouraging studios to release wallet-emptying episodic products.)
"Grindhouse" isn't exactly "Heaven's Gate" by any means; if people don't like it, Tarantino can always shrug because it doesn't represent some Grand Artistic Statement. It's just a hit 'n' run type of genre hommage. It's tough on the money men, but no big deal
Robert, Coventry, England
Death Proof was a tedious 1.5 hour excuse to show the Nu Zillint stuntwoman Zoe Bell on the bonnnet of a 1970s muscle car. Yes, it was a good stunt, but the build-up, the exruciating, humourless dialogue....someone (Harvey Weinstein) needed to cut it down to about 20 minutes. Quentin's not the genius he thinks he is.
frank mccallister, edinburgh,
I hate the harsh American crtics who claim to know it all & yet don't. I am a huge fan of Tarantino but admti he may not always make crowd pleaser films, but I enjoy each & everyone of them. Four Rooms was actually the first film that he directed that did not do well at box office. Those mean critics seem to be too frustrated to remember this. Who cares, I'll still be watching his films as they cooly pay tribute to what I grew up watching.
Ben, London, England
i enjoyed grindhouse and although it was a rather long set of movies what do you expect when you are watching more than one movie. the trailer for the Rob Zombie remake of halloween looks amazing....the fake trailers were awsome. I recommend this movie(s)
sean, P-town, IL
I'm a big fan fan of Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill Vol. 1, and Sin City -- they're all great movies, something which neither Grindhouse billing can claim. I expected something more interesting out of Planet Terror than a mindless Zombie movie, plus all of the cool parts were shown in the trailer. DeathProof was twice as long as it needed to be, and not half as witty as it thought itself to be. The best part of the whole experience was the fake previews for crazy movies like Machete. The absolute worst part was the awkward casting of Tarantino in both movies. He is abrasive to say the least, and producers were crazy to think anyone would want to look at him, let alone listen to him talk. I'm happy the whole thing tanked. Maybe these two brilliant directors can focus more on telling an interesting and orignal story than on how clever they are.
Matthew Wilkins, Lansing, Michigan, U.S.A.
Tarantino movies have always been hyped up to be more than they actually deserved. He just became the Hollywood darling of the period and now they have fallen out of love with him. There will be a new kid on block soon who will receive the same treatment.
They were just movies after all - none of them will be remembered in a few years time.
Pat, Luton,
I saw Grindhouse in LA -- it was a fantastic cinematic experience. I've never had so much fun at the movies. I am a 30-something female, and I am generally pretty squeamish about violence. But Tarantino's filmic violence reflects something terrible and real and archetypal about violence in life, but reflected through ART -- it's not real life, and I don't think adults would tend to confuse it with the real. I loved KILL BILL and feel invigorated by its themes. I have no intention of owning or ever shooting a gun -- but the kind of courage a woman warrior needs facing certain death is something I can enjoy thinking about. I feel bad for anyone who doesnt' get to see the films the way there were intended, as a double feature. Maybe it will have a long life as a cult film, ala Rocky Horror Picture Show...?
Ada, Los Angeles, USA/CA
The thought of viewing "Pulp Fiction" again nearly makes me want to retch--what an immature, rambling bunch of nonsense in the the guise of arthouse cinema...
Paul, Columbia, USA
I loved Grindhouse and will see it again. The people of Europe should revolt for being tagged as too stupid and having too short of an attention span to get this film.
The people that posted before me sound like they have never seen the film. It's like voting, if you don't go see the movie than you should keep your mouth shut. Tarantino is one of the best director/writers around today.
Nancy, Tucson, AZ
I don't like to see people fail, but I can't say that I've ever liked a film that Quenton Tarantino ever made. They are always full of violence and kitsch. Kitsch is alright I guess, but not when someone is consistantly creditied for coming up with ideas that were already trashy 30 years ago or whenever. Overrated. Maybe he should just start making video games, because that's where people go these days if they want mindless killing and big boobies.
moose, manchester,
The previews were the worst I've ever seen. I like Trantino, but I didn'even t plan on seeing it. I won't rent it on DVD.
The people of the UK should be happy about reducing pollution in their country.
Juli, Plainfield, IL, USA
This film(s) is an homage to 1970's B Movies. They were B movies for a reason. To parady them is bizarre and seems to be an inside joke than no one else gets other than the Directors. I saw it, hated it, had it not been for the fact I had endure Ghost Rider a few months back, it would have been the worse film I've paid to see in the last 5 years. In fact given the run time, it was worse.
Paul, San Francisco, Ca
This is so funny. These Hollywood goofs think because they had one or two hits that they are invincible. Welcome to the Real World.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAH Put it on DVD and maybe it will become a "CULT CLASSIC" and your boys will recover their investment.
Craig, Deerfield Beach, Florida USA
Which sucks more? T or his movies? Nine year olds have more imagination. The same crowd that watches this garbage is the same crowd that thinks Madonna is an artist; unless you consider voyeurism is art - nuf sed
Peace
guillone, Scottsdale, AZ
"Grindhouse" is awesome, and the last 25 minutes are curely the best 25 you'll spend in a theatre this year. You'd be crazy to judge this movie by today's audience's standards. "Ghost Rider" was a huge hit, remember.
Martin O'Brien, Toronto, Ontario, Canada,
An homage to exploitation films probably shouldn't cost ten to twenty times what a current exploitation film would cost to make. It was a ridiculous investment risk, and it's paid off the way society has chosen ... i.e. NOT to see it. This is the worst kind of vanity project, and the masses just weren't interested. There really isn't anything more needing to be said.
E. Lee Zimmerman, chander, USA / AZ
One person's 'geeky, nervous energy' is another's cocaine fueled megalomaniac. I think Quentin needed a setback like this. He came out of the gate with too much expectation and praise, its not good for a long term career. I think grindhouse had a good premise, but I can't see this doing anything but good for him in the long run.
Being a video store clerk, his films are sometimes labasted for the thin line between homage and plagiarism (bad artists borrow, great ones steal i know know). I just think he needs to be grounded.
Really looking forward to 'inglorious bastards' if he gets to it.
Grant, Iowa, US
Taking into consideration the recent massacre on the college campus, coupled with the continuing "war" in Iraq, a strong possiblity exists that maybe, just maybe, people have grown weary of the gory, slasher movies produced by Hollywood. Why spend twenty bucks when you can simply turn on FOX News or CNN and see that these things depicted in the films, are actually occurring on a daily basis. I believe that people are slowly realizing that movies of this genre might serve as catalysts for the realities of the modern world. (Life imitates art)
Jim, Estes Park, United States Colorado
i think not even tarantino can equal the violence you see when watching two consecutive hours of cnn...
rob, duesseldorf, germany
The previews tell me it's pure trash, not even comic book quality - T's made some GREAT films, this isn't one of them.
bob, san an, usa
It is rumoured that this "double-bill" will be split into two films and released separately. If that is the case I for one will not see either.
Martin, Cambridge, UK
Tarantino is a good director. He has to take the good with the bad just like everyone else. Just because you work in Hollywood doesn't mean you immune to making a mistake.
Chris McMahon, Palm Springs, CA
A lot of people want him to fail because of his success and his abrasive, self-infatuated personality,
Hmmm, sour grapes or what? How can you wish for the failure of one of cinema's more interesting characters? Tarantino's whole geeky, nervous energy is what first endeared him to us. The smug, unapproachable demeanour of Hollywood directors & producers were washed away with Quentin's refreshing attitude of a 'boy done good' and if the "insiders" are now finding his effervescence distasteful I think they should turn the lens on themselves and look to why one would want to stick the knife in to an auteur who swept through Tinseltown with a much needed tornado, reminding audiences exactly what "The Movies" are capable of. Quentin, My Captain...
stoopix, london,
with kids like cho (virginia tech killer) becoming more and more commonplace, maybe this film not getting any play is a good thing. maybe the christians are right, what we take in, does work itself out!
Rick Roberts, Sylmar,
I do have to say, it's nice to see someone who is stuck on himself fall on his face. I am curious if he will go on late night talk shows and act "better then you" now.
Now I think we will see a nicer T. then the stuck up, I am in my own movie type everyone is getting sick of.
Johnny, Sac, USA