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Angelina Jolie’s kids are off playing nearby. “They’re with their dad, actually. Around here somewhere,” she says with a wave of her hand. “And I’m going to hook up with them in a couple of hours. When I’ve done this.” This sounds like a perfectly normal domestic agenda, until you remind yourself that we are sitting in a cabana in the grounds of one of the fanciest hotels on the French Riviera, and that the play-day father in question happens to be Brad Pitt. Thus, outside the front gates of this imposingly posh hotel, a posse of paparazzi the size of a small army await the couple’s movements. Indeed, such is their star power that just down the road, Cannes, a town geared to the presence of movie actors, seems to take to the streets and hold its collective breath when the couple sweep in later that evening, cocooned inside a motorcade of limos. For now, though, there’s an interview to navigate, and then it’s family time.
“Oh, Brad’s a great father, a very hands-on father,” she smiles. “We’re very hands-on parents, believe me.” Together they form Brangelina, a celebrity soap opera that straddles the globe from Pakistan and India, where they were based as she made her latest film, A Mighty Heart, to Pittsburgh and Peterborough. Everybody knows all about them, don’t they? If you were to follow the American tabloids, there’s a version of their lives that is played out in relentless weekly episodes; there are “stories” – speculation mingled with half-truths and, frankly, rubbish – of rows, her “dramatic” weight loss, and petty jealousies about exes.
His ex, of course, is Jennifer Aniston, the girl-next-door type who lost Pitt to the altogether more exotic and vampish Jolie. Hers is Billy Bob Thornton, of which more later. But to read such material – one report even detailed the number of hotdogs Brad ordered for the kids and how many had ketchup (three) – leaves you briefly wondering if they really are constantly at each other’s throats, why nobody wanted mustard or onions and, mostly, how on earth anybody could live in such a goldfish bowl. This is celebrity watching gone nuts. “I don’t see those magazines and I don’t watch those TV programmes,” says Jolie. “I really don’t know about that stuff, and I don’t want to know. It’s funny. Sometimes somebody will reference something as if I understand what the rumour has been for the last month, and I have no idea what they are talking about. Mostly, I’m sure, it’s nonsense.”
The woman before us today, wearing a Dolce & Gabbana white wraparound dress, is undeniably beautiful. Her brown hair is swept back from that remarkable face and those extraordinary lips are free from lipstick and as full as ever. (One story had them “disappearing”, like a magician’s rabbit.) She does, though, look thinner than the last time I interviewed her some two years ago, but certainly not the anorexic waif others have made her out to be. She tells me that life is “great”, although she is still grieving from the loss of her mother, French actress Marcheline Bertrand, who died in January this year, aged just 56, after a long battle with ovarian cancer.
“I am my mother’s daughter,” she says. “Very much so. My love of children, my values, caring about what goes on in the world, all of that comes from her. She was the most wonderful woman and a fantastic role model for me. I miss her terribly every day. I try to raise my children the way that my mother raised me. I didn’t really have a father around.” Her father is actor Jon Voight, who married Bertrand when she was 21 and a rising star. They had two children – Angelina has an older brother, James Haven – but were divorced when their daughter was just three, and while Jolie is a second-generation Hollywood star, her relatively modest home life apparently left her feeling isolated from her altogether more privileged schoolmates at Beverly Hills High School.
As a teenager, Jolie took up modelling and appeared in pop videos, but quickly broke into the movie business. Indeed she did some of her best work early on in her career, playing a supermodel who dies of Aids in Gia (which won her a Golden Globe), and a mental patient in Girl, Interrupted (which in 2000 won her a Best Supporting Actress Oscar). Her acting credentials established early on, Jolie has always been happy to combine more commercial films – Foxfire, The Bone Collector, the Tomb Raider movies – with more serious roles, such as Beyond Borders (a project dear to her heart, about refugees), and The Good Shepherd, directed by Robert De Niro.
But that impressive early career also came with a reputation for wildness and Jolie has what might be called a colourful past. She has been married twice – briefly, to British actor Jonny Lee Miller (after they starred together in Hackers, an early break-out role), and then famously, for three years, to Billy Bob Thornton. If Jolie seemed to have gone a bit off the rails in her youth – cutting herself and dyeing her hair – that marriage made her seem even wilder. At one point these two took to wearing necklaces with vials of each other’s blood, and there were interviews where she talked of her fascination with knives and her bisexuality. Voight and Jolie, who had always had a fractious relationship, but appeared together in Tomb Raider (with him playing Lara Croft’s father), fell out again when Voight publicly questioned her exploits. In short, for a while Jolie was Hollywood’s favourite bad girl.
Jolie recently said, “I am still at heart – and always will be – just a punk kid with tattoos.” But today, at 32, she sounds all grown up, and indeed has four children: Maddox, 6, who she adopted as a baby (while married to Thornton), Pax, 3, and two-year-old Zahara, who are also adopted, and 16-month-old Shiloh, her biological daughter with Pitt. So has being a mother changed her? “Yes, but not so much that I’m not the person I was before... certainly parenthood grounds us both in the most wonderful way.” They take it in turns to work. When we meet, Jolie has taken a few days off from filming to travel to Cannes to promote A Mighty Heart, which is based on the book by Mariane Pearl, telling the story of the kidnap and murder of her husband, Daniel, a Wall Street Journal reporter, by Islamic terrorists in 2002. Pitt, who serves as a producer on the film but doesn’t appear in it, is taking a back seat – it’s his turn to look after the children.
While it would be ludicrous to suggest theirs is a lifestyle that compares with what the vast majority would consider normal, Jolie’s priority is clearly motherhood, and she strives to retain a bedrock of values. “You know, I always wanted to adopt kids. My mother used to say that I talked about it when I was a little girl. And I’ve always wanted a big family. And Brad’s the same. We are enjoying the children together. So, as much as it’s absolute chaos and sometimes we look at each other and think, ‘My God! What have we done?’, there are many more moments when I couldn’t imagine any one of them not being here. They are such big personalities, and it’s so exciting to watch them grow up. Brad and I would like more kids, but we’re aware that right now we can give special time to each one of them every day, and we want to make sure we continue to do that.
“I haven’t worked for nine months, so I’ve been balancing kids and doing everything, and now I’m ready to work,” Jolie explains. “When I work, Brad stays at home with the kids and vice versa. When we were in India, it was his job to entertain them and he loves that. So it’s all about scheduling. Fortunately, they love travelling, so we go everywhere as a family. I kind of feel that our home is wherever we are.” The children are still too young to take in all the fuss and the fact that Mum and Dad happen to be two of the biggest sex symbols on the planet. “Yeah, that’ll make them laugh. To them we’re two of the dorkiest people on the planet…”
Directed by Michael Winterbottom, A Mighty Heart was Jolie’s most challenging role yet, a far more serious piece than some of the films she is better known for – Lara Croft, or the frothy action thriller Mr and Mrs Smith, in which she co-starred with Pitt and where they first got together. “Do I think about destiny? A bit. I don’t live my life by it. But yes, we’ve talked about how we first met and that our lives would certainly have been different if we hadn’t have been cast together on that one.”
She first met Mariane Pearl a few years ago, when they arranged a “play-date” for their kids. At the time of Daniel Pearl’s abduction, Mariane was six months pregnant and now has a much adored son, five-year-old Adam, born after her husband was murdered. “I knew Mariane a bit because we tried out play-dates,” explains Jolie. “She had a kid, I had a kid, we got in touch and it was like, ‘Let’s get the kids together so they can hang out…’ Separately, Brad had bought the rights to the book, and then they got together and started to talk. It was like, ‘OK, we’re going to make the movie, what do you think?’ And when it came to casting she mentioned me, which was fantastic.”

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Oh, hum!
'Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive'!
Jolie baby is more Lady Macbeth than Mother Teresa.
Audrey Hepburn, was gracious and caring and gave her life, literally, to her work, with the United Nations
Roger Moore's service to world poverty, is, also carried out, with grace and good humour and sincerity, devoured of publicity seeking..
Jolie and Pitt, on the other hand, parade 'their' children in front of the world media and frequent expensive hotels,restaurants etc etc.
The don't exactly live in a mud hut!
Their individual treatment of Pitt's ex wife, Jennifer Aniston was cruel and heartless, to say the least!!
'What is essential is invisible to the eye!('Little Prince')
prudence eely bond mcguire , Herne Hill,London, England
I'm sick about hearing about what a Mother Teresa type of person Angelina Jolie is. Yes she is incredibly beautiful and sexy but adopting children clearly offers her stability and the unconditional love she has longed for over the years. This is a woman who used to cut herself and had a very unhappy past. To me she is still the woman who goes for what she wants regardless of who she hurts (remember Billy Bob Thornton was also married) but simply gets away with it because she is beautiful. Stop making her into some sort of Saint. There are alot of famous women who do the same ie. giving to charity , adopting like Nicole Kidman for example who do it without telling the world.
Sarah, London,
I love Angelina and what she has done for charity. She obviously love kids from her heart. She is a great model for all people who have ability to adopt orphan. Wish her and her family best of life.
karie, Hong Kong,
I love Angelina Jolie and what she have done for the such complicated world. She loves kids from her heart and it is a great model for all people who have ability to adopt orphan.
karie, Hong Kong,
Very intersting article, I love Angelina dedication. Not only as a mother , as a women. her dedication to the world.
Rosa, Milan, Italy
Marcheline Bertrand was an American actress of French-Canadian descent, not French.
D. Brown, Beaconsfield, Quebec
I don't understand, Angelina says she had no father in her life but her mother's Wikipedia profile says she had a boyfriend named Bill Day who lived with them for 12 years. What is the story with that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcheline_Bertrand
Daniel O'mally, Oxford, UK
Both Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt are personalities that are great role models for other celebs, the rich and the young generations to undertake social and down-to-earth actions. What they are doing are noble deeds and I really wish them the best of life, and good health!!! May God bless them this beuatiful family.
nia kadir, jakarta, indonesia
Well done. Angelina and Brad make such a beautiful couple, and their family life seems radically wonderful.
Carol Lazarus, New York, USA
Sick of anything that has to do with either or both .
BJ, Riverside, LA, US
Angelina Jolie's young life is an inspiration to many of us who support her. With her joining the Council on Foreign Relations with the likes of Bill Clinton and Ms Rice, she will go a long way. Who can say, she is not educating herself? Bravo Angelina!
Uma Richmond, Indianapolis, USA
Oh come on, the woman is a complete fruitcake, and no amount of mult-coloured kids and happy family tripe is going to change that. Brad looks like a broken man who is thinking "what on earth have I done?", she looks like a skeletal freak from a Dracula film, and together they're a train wreck not waiting to happen, but in motion, right now.
Laura Roberts, London, UK
The probem with Angelina Jolie is that she is tring to be too serious and all that. She should take herself and the world a little easy. She is beautiful and she is intelligent. But it does not mean that she should try to do all those silly politically correct things. She should also stop accepting the silly meaningful roles, and she shoiuld do some mindless glamourous roles.
Parsa Venkateshwar Rao Jr, New Delhi, India
It could be so much easier to simply waft through life in a cloud of designer perfume, but here is a person who uses her celebrity positively, to highlight the plight of less fortunate people. She has knowledge, influence and compassion. Well done!
Clair, Belley, France
Nice to read something positive about Brad & Ange coming from a reliable source unlike other tabloids that keeps on writing rubbish & made up stories about them. Thanks.
irma, jax, usa
I love Brad and Angie and their family. They both seem to be doing their best to be good parents and good people and I think they are doing a great job of both.
Dee, Venice, Florida
Very good article. Love Angelina!
NDG, Northern California, CA
angelina i love you and iam crazy about you.i dont know is this a coincidence or what that when ever i think about you i see you in newspapers movies.i realy dont know may be my love for you is real.
many thanks
Ali , quetta, pakistan
RE: Angelina Almighty
Thank you, Martyn, for writing such a well grounded and real interview with Angelina Jolie! I am so sick of reading all the lies that are printed about her, that it's refreshing and a relief to read something that is real. I have a great respect for this woman and the work that she does with the refugees around the world; her knowledge and commitment to these issues are awe inspiring. And because I have personally experienced exhaustive hours working on a film, I am further impressed at how she can juggle all that and a growing family at the same time and do her work for the UNHCR.
This is a woman whom we could all stand to emulate, even just a little, as a humanitarian.
Thanks again, Martyn, for a wonderful interview!
Shane Lavender, Edmonton, Canada