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When Simon Pegg was 12, he - like almost every child his age - watched ET. Unlike most 12-year-olds, he noticed that in a scene where the diminutive alien spotted a child dressed in a Yoda costume, John Williams’s score briefly changed to echo his own theme from The Empire Strikes Back. “It was never explained,” he says, leaning forward enthusiastically to underline his point. “You just see Yoda and hear the music. I thought - my God, I get that. He’s put Yoda’s music in because we’re seeing Yoda. I felt so clever and satisfied that I’d been regarded as an intelligent human being by the movie-maker. I wanted to engender that feeling in others and say, ‘I’m not up here saying watch me, I’m saying come and do it with me.’ ” Twenty-five years later, Pegg is in Hollywood, having just finished work on his latest film, How to Lose Friends & Alienate People, when he gets a call saying Steven Spielberg would like to meet him.
So he trots over to the motion-capture set for the ET director’s latest project - the first in a trilogy of Tintin movies. Motion-capture sets are bizarre, empty places. The event has been shot and is held in a computerised camera, which allows the director to swoop around the scene. As a result, there is only a computer guy and Spielberg sitting there.
“Steven’s smoking a stogy, cap on head, like he’s always been since I was a baby,” Pegg says, shaking his head in wonder. “I shook his hand and chatted about films. He gave me the mo-cap [motion-capture] camera, and I had a play around with it. Then he said, ‘Hey, maybe you and Nick Frost could play the Thompson Twins.’ In Tintin. A Spielberg movie. To work with him is beyond .. . ” He trails off, lost for words.
Life has been full of these pull-focus moments for Pegg recently. The 38-year-old keeps finding himself in incredible situations, cartwheeling inside, but trying to act casual. In How to Lose Friends, for instance, Pegg plays a fictionalised version of the British journalist Toby Young, whose confessional of the same name charted his incredibly unsuccessful stint at Vanity Fair in the late 1990s. The magazine’s infamous editor, Graydon Carter, is played by Jeff Bridges, who, Pegg found, is pretty much like The Dude, his unemployed LA slacker character from The Big Lebowski. Except when he’s actually on set.
“He’s very focused and method on set,” Pegg says, leaning back on his sofa. “He watches the monitor after takes, thinks about what he’s done, then goes back and changes it - it’s brilliant to watch, but on the first day it was a little intimidating. Then he suddenly turned to me and said, ‘Do you play tablas?’ And I said, ‘What?’ And he said, ‘I’ve got these tablas in my trailer. I just bought them. Come over at lunchtime and we’ll play them.’
“So I went round to his trailer and, sure enough, he had these Indian drums, and he was teaching me how to play them and make that bendy noise. I started to play, and he picked up his guitar and started to strum along. I suddenly realised I was in Jeff Bridges’s trailer, playing tabla, accompanying him on guitar, and I just laughed out loud.”
In a way, it was that moment in ET - that switch in Williams’s score - that put him at Jeff Bridges’s knee. In the late 1990s, he created Channel 4’s cult sitcom Spaced with fellow comic Jessica Hynes (née Stevenson) and with long-time collaborator Edgar Wright directing. The trio deliberately set out to pack the show with knowing references, loading it with elaborate bows to Star Wars, Resident Evil, Close Encounters, The A-Team and Fight Club.
Spaced begat Shaun of the Dead, Wright and Pegg’s spoof romantic-comedy/zombie movie, or rom-zom-com, which was a surprise sleeper hit in America in 2004 and has sold 1.3m DVDs Stateside. Variety quotes the unlikely statistic that, according to the film’s distributor, Universal, 40% of American men aged between 17 and 39 are fans of the film.
It also impressed a significant number of Hollywood power players: Quentin Tarantino, David Schwimmer, Mission: Impossible III’s director, JJ Abrams, and the comedy uber-producer Judd Apatow. Famously, Pegg dismissed the success of Shaun of the Dead with the quip, “It’s not like I’m going to be starring in Mission: Impossible III” - only to be cast as Benji in the movie a few months later. He’s now mates with all of the above.
“It’s very collaborative out there,” he muses on Hollywood. “Edgar’s been there all year. He’s living over Quentin Tarantino’s cinema at the moment. It’s basically a ‘rise of the geek’ thing. The generation who are starting to take over Hollywood are the people who grew up with video - loving film and TV, and taping it and rewatching it, just like the Spaced lot and the League of Gentlemen and the Mighty Boosh and Little Britain did. We all grew up on the same stuff and we get the same references. It’s like - if you can write and perform, then you’re in.”
Yet, despite Pegg’s magnanimous inclusive sweep across the British comedy industry, it is hard to think of another homeboy who’s got it quite so good. Sacha Baron Cohen, perhaps, and maybe Ricky Gervais: both have a healthy cameo career and are working on Hollywood-backed movie projects for 2009. What they haven’t yet got is a How to Lose Friends movie - a leading-man role in a proper American-distributed popcorn flick, with a glam-orous co-star (Kirsten Dunst) and someone else to write, produce and direct.
The result is edging Pegg towards a kind of 21st-century mix of Hugh Grant and Richard Curtis. He still writes his own stuff - there is a road movie with Nick Frost, Paul, out next year, and World’s End, the third in the Wright/Pegg “blood and ice cream” trilogy that began with Shaun of the Dead and led to Hot Fuzz, starts shooting soon - but after Run, Fat Boy, Run and Lose Friends, he stands on the verge of becoming Britain’s leading romcom hero.
In one sense, this is exceedingly unlikely. His cheerful, scruffy and enthusiastic on-screen characters are very close to the man himself – although the real-life Pegg is more inclined to discuss the politics of cinema or the essence of love songs than his gut-scratching alter egos.
He doesn’t have Brad Pitt’s abs, Daniel Craig’s jaw or Johnny Depp’s smoulder. He is an everyman with dreams - letting men think that they, too, might kiss Kirsten Dunst while allowing their girlfriends to believe the slob beside them might yet shape up.
Creating such dreams is a fitting role for the son of two dreamers. Pegg was born in Gloucester to a piano-salesman father who wanted to be a musician and a tax-office civil-servant mother who was passionate about amateur dramatics. His parents separated when he was seven, his mother moving with Pegg and his sister to a village that had an arcane trust bequeathed by an earnest noblewoman “to send children to places of artistic education”.
“Mum applied for the grant for me to go to a theatre-studies college in Stratford-upon-Avon when I was 16. She loved acting so much, but the idea of doing it professionally wasn’t an option for her as a young girl in Gloucester. So she scraped the money together and did everything she could to let me do it.” He is visibly moved as he retells this, though he is quick to add that his father was incredibly supportive too. Indeed, he got his parents and his sister roles in Shaun of the Dead - though, after chatting to Jon Voight at an LA premiere, it was his mother he called to share his excitement.
From Stratford, Pegg went to Bristol to study drama on an intensely theoretical course - his thesis was “A Marxist overview of popular Seventies cinema and hegemonic discourses”. It was there that he decided to take control of his own means of production. “The course was of such an analytical nature that it gave you this state-of-the-art overview of the culture in the nation,” he recalls. “I thought, ‘Maybe I don’t want to be part of that “buffeted by agents” thing. maybe I want to be able to create something for myself’.”
As for the romcom thing - well, Pegg brought it on himself. Spaced had a “will they, won’t they?” element. He argues that Shaun of the Dead was a spoof romantic comedy, rather than a spoof horror film, and that Hot Fuzz was “deliberately taking on that guy-love homoerotic subtext most action films have, because I have a fairly romantic relationship with Nick - he’s my best friend and I love him very much - but also because there are some hilariously homoerotic moments in action cinema. Not least Danny Glover cradling the stripped-to-the-waist Mel Gibson in the rain at the end of Lethal Weapon, saying, ‘I’ve got you, I’ve got you’ ”.
He pauses to wonder why this is so. “I think,” he concludes, “the struggle for love is almost more powerful than the fight for freedom or against evil.” Pegg has won this particular struggle. In 2005, he married his long-time girlfriend, Maureen McCann, who used to work in the music industry, but is now his manager. They came up with the arrangement to spend more time together, but when I mention children, he laughs and says: “We have a dog.”
He is also keen to stay in Crouch End, north London, despite Hollywood’s embrace. “LA can be the most exciting place on earth and it can be the darkest, loneliest place ever,” he explains. “If you’ve got nothing to do, there’s just these big empty wide streets that go on for miles. . . ” He shivers. And, for a moment, you can almost hear that Williams theme from ET, the story of a traveller whose adventure gets a bit too big and who just wants to go home.
How to Lose Friends & Alienate People will be released on October 3
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