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“This could be the end for Spider-Man,” a stricken newsreader gravely informs us at a particularly nail-biting moment in Spider-Man 3, when all seems lost for our hero.
Unlikely, considering that the latest film in the multimillion-dollar franchise was made by Sony Pictures and was having its premiere in the Japanese capital — the first Hollywood blockbuster to do so.
In addition, the Spider-Man films have made more money on this side of the world than anywhere else.
Staging this premiere in Tokyo was about giving a crystal clear message to Sony staff in Japan, and to the Japanese media: Sony is about $250 million (£125 million) movies as well as its beloved electronic gadgetry.
None of this, though, could spoil a film that amounts to a daft, highly polished couple of hours of fantasy fun. There is not enough of the super-villains and they are not nearly twisted enough. But then there never is and they never are.
There are digital effects galore to remind us that Sony is a high-tech company, particularly when a new super-villain, the Sandman, is transformed into a living sandstorm and pulverises bits of Manhattan.
And for reminders that Japan, the home of manga comics, is an increasingly powerful influence on Hollywood directors there is an unmistakable homage to the anime classic Akira.
Perhaps, more subtly, there are ample goodies aimed head-on at the female Japanese film-goer, the most important demographic in what has become the world’s second biggest box office. The hunk count is disproportionately high, the babe count oddly low.
At one point Tobey Maguire, who plays Peter Parker/Spider-Man, Thomas Haden Church, James Franco and Topher Grace square off in a four-way clash clearly designed to satisfy all tastes in hairstyle, physical build and jaw-line. The imperilled Kirsten Dunst, meanwhile, barely registers.
As well as the challenge that Spider-Man faces from the Sandman — he learns of a connection with the murder of his Uncle Ben — a mysterious black substance has turned his Spider-Man suit black. It brings forth a darker side of Parker and Spidey that nobody has seen before when he is conveniently infested with an alien parasite. Indeed, the central theme of the film is that even superheroes can have a dark side.
The problem is that even Spider-Man’s “evil” side is still hopelessly mild-mannered. We are shown a montage of his sub-Mr Hyde depravities. His hair droops over one eye; he swaggers along the street; he flirts with passers-by; his girl ditches him; and he makes an ass of himself in a nightclub. In short, he behaves like a textbook drunk on any given Saturday night.
A horrifying glimpse into the unspeakable pit of the human soul this is not.
Also disappointing is the inability of the director, Sam Raimi, to end the romp without a fleeting shot of the American flag. The Stars and Stripes just happens to be fluttering behind Spidey as he makes his triumphal return to honour, probity and good honest fist-fighting.
From the web
— The first Spider-Man film was so successful that the release date for the third was already set when Spider-Man 2 came out
— Sam Raimi, the trilogy director and a lifelong fan, made all the principal actors study original 1960s Spider-Man comics.
— Stan Lee, the creator of Spider-Man, has cameo roles in all three films.
Source: movie-list.com; spiderfan.org; comicbookmovie.com; imdb.com
Too many villains and not enough screen time to do them justice. Venom was lame. The effects were dodgy especially the goblin / parker battle. Ive seen better graphics on a Sega Megadrive. Sam Raimi had too much to do with it writing the screen play as well as directing. Self indulged nonsense.
Jonny D, Luton,
Saying spiderman 3 is a bad movie is like saying honey is a bitter things...
Keith Squall, Davao, Philippines
it was a waste of 2 hours, too emotional and spidey crying was just too much. And the evil toby looked absolutely pathetic.
Bad script is all it comes down to, Spider Man 2 was way better, I probably would not watch part 4 if they ever decide to make one.
Danial , Karachi , Pakistan
I dont understand why people are criticising this film so much. I thought the special effects, the cinematography, the fights were all extremely well executed. Even the humorous aspects were quite amusing. In fact I would go so far as to say that this is the best of all three. Agreed that it was a bit over the top in terms of the emotional quotient but for heaven's sake this is a super hero movie. They are meant to be like that. If one wants darkness they should watch Batman Begins or X-Men. Spidey was always the goody goody type super hero. Cheers to the Director and Producer
Ali Zaman, Karachi, Pakistan
Spiderman 3 was the movie that made me angry more than any other.
It wasn't bad enough to enjoy laughing at a bad movie, it was just bad.
I counted 14 people get up and leave after an hour of this movie.
I really feel cheated with this movie and want my money back.
Joel Curnuck, Cairns, QLD Australia
i feel like they should have focused on one of these at a time, like may have said, but if they really wanted it this way then this should have been the last movie and spidy should have married MJ (mary jane)
judy, nyc, NY
This movie sucked. They killed the Spiderman Movies for good. IF they come out with 4, I will not be seeing it. Simply the worst movie I've ever seen.
David, Houston, TX,
I'm an old school spidey fan and as such, never really liked the venom storyline in the comics. Having said that, both Venom and the Sandman deserve to have a film each as Spidey's villans. All the space which the first two films lent to Spidey's foes to allow their story arc to develop is lost here. In fact Venom, who had no time at all to develop when attatched to Peter Parker and even less when it got together with Brock, was nothing more than 'the big nasty alien'. Shades of the old Batman franchise seem to be creeping in with a 'more villans, more noise, more edits is better' attitude.
Harry Osbourne as the new Goblin is another character that deserves a movie of his own to deck it out with Spiderman. Again a wasted opportunity in the rush to be bigger and better.
Still, it has to be said that this is still the best superhero franchise out there and in any other directors hands this could have been a complete mess. This is very much a Raimi film and that is never a bad thing.
Richard Floyd-Walker, Bath, Somerset
i thought that the spiderman movie harkened back to an earlier time in movie history when there was a moral to the movie and it was not just mindless. i was intregued by the way the movie showed the consequeses of their choices, especially to the other people involved-i e venom and spidey; sandman and spidey and harry and spidey.
Cheryl, Ft Wayne, IN-USA
iam a real spidey fan-no it all. They did Venom no justice. i thought it was going to be an all out fight between spidey and venom...instead Sandman and Venom team up??? What.. it remines me of the batman movies. Two face and Riddler, Mr freeze and poisen ivy..I mean come on Venom is the best spidey villain of all time.. it was just to much cramed in the last half hour..All this crying and the Osborns
butler confessing in the end, that he knew his father killed him self, he could have told him dat in the begining. Well may be iam just a comic nerd...That movie sucked
ThunderKat, Baltimore, Maryland
I think this is the best Spidey film yet, and most of the criticisms I've heard are unfair and offbase.
I have heard that the villains didn't have enough screen time. However, both Sandman and Venom's origins were handled well and faithful to the comics, and Harry Osborn still had time to be put through the emotional ringer, pinballing back and forth from good to evil right up until his heroic ultimate fate. And you knew going in that Spidey would be wearing the black suit first, so it only stood to reason that Brock wouldn't acquire it until the movie's second half.
Also, who cares how Tobey Maguire's face looks when he cries? No one looks pretty in the throes of emotional turmoil, and it was very unvain of Maguire as an actor to simply express what his character would be feeling without worrying that he might not look his personal best.
The movie could have done without the dance number, and it was a little uneven sometimes, but the good far outweighs the bad in this film.
Travis, Harrisonburg, VA
I've seen it - and i suppose i can understand where what these critics are saying is coming from. It is a little bit cheesy, and it does have its share of unrealistic moments - but i think the bottom line is that SPIDERMAN IS A COMIC BOOK HERO. Its not suppose to be super realistic, and of course the alien goo (although bad introduction of it) will obviously land on Spiderman. Like all movies, it had its ups and downs - but i think overall it was excellent. I don't care what the critics are saying. Hell, they say a lot of things. Now as it goes for a 4th, I think theres no doubt about it. No matter how bad the reviews are, they still made shit loads of money on this one. But the thing is, i was reading the article about a fourth this morning in the Toronto Sun, and i came across a heading that said new actors? I'm sorry, i mean I'm all for Mandy Moore, (although i do like Kristin Dunst) but Jake Gylenhal for Spiderman? Will that work?
Zachary , Oakville, Canada
I went to see the movie few days after its release. Although i read different reviews that made me change my mind about seeing it, i think it's about the greatest Spiderman movie i've ever seen even though it's not actually what i expected but i believe so much effort was implented to make the movie a "success($)" and we should all commend the great ability of both the casts, the crews and even the director. I believe more could still be added to the movie that would make more sense about the lesson of revenge which is what all humans always hang onto. My girl loves it and that made me happy because i didn't waste my money at least. GO ON SPIDEYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!
Akin, Scarborough, Toronto, Canada
It was entertaining enough. I enjoyed it, but then i am a life long comic book fan. However, for a long movie, the plot did feel rushed, touching here and there to supposedly establish the various characters, but substance got lost along the way. Not sure Venom is dead, just dissapeared along with brock, probably to some dimension or whatever explanation they will give in the next installment...if they use venom again. all and all, they could have done better...but i would still buy the dvd for my collection.
Mel, Somerset West, South Africa
I can see why the reviews are bad: that the film was overlong and burdened with too many characters and a poor script. As a result the Peter/Mary Jane/Harry relationship was not dealt with properly and the humour doesn't quite fit with the serious side of the film - a weakness I have often seen in Raimi's work. Much of the story is overblown so for me didn't sustain disbelief.
Lastly i felt there was a definite sense of the actors playing by the numbers. However, I think it will do well at the box office because it was still an entertaining film - it had a beginning middle and an end; the special effects were fantastic and it maintained the action. Far better than Star Wars 3 or Matrix 3 - just disappointing because I expected more after Spidey 2...
James, Milton Keynes, UK
It was entertaining enough. I enjoyed it, but then i am a life long comic book fan. However, for a long movie, the plot did feel rushed, touching here and there to supposedly establish the various characters, but substance got lost along the way. Not sure Venom is dead, just dissapeared along with brock, probably to some dimension or whatever explanation they will give in the next installment...if they use venom again. all and all, they could have done better...but i would still buy the dvd for my collection.
Mel, Somerset West, South Africa
Why? just why?, how can they make a great superhero and such great characters play a part in such a bad movie?, i honestly believe it takes some kind of wierd talent to make this movie so bad. The whole emo look given to him and the eyeliner and the whole forgiveness throughout the whole movie just made it a little bit too bad. One can only hope that the hobbit is not passed down to this guy. Shame on you Stan Lee.
Jeronimo, Temecula, U.S, CA
I dont see whats wrong with the American Flag?!
And Venom shouldnt have been killed off in 3...he should have been in 4.
I personally liked tha movie...tha only dissappointing aspect of it for me was the fact that there was too much for one movie..i felt it was being condensed...i wish they would have with-held the last fight scene for the 4th...Oh well....like i said no argument here...great film!
Graciie_Babii, KiSsiMmEeE, USA
Convienient isn't it that at the beginning venom crashes to earth just yards from peter Parker not at all like the original story where JJJ's son goes up in a space shuttle & brings it back! WHAT happened to spidey's "spider sense" & why Kill venom!
Damian, catford, London
I guess that the problem with the American Flag is that it is extremely "cursi" for a film that is intended to be delivered in so many countries
Luis, Lima, Perú
fantastic film for all spidey fans, brilliant special effects and editing but we have to remember, this film haves a wide variety of audiences. I think it went a bit over the top with the humour as someone already said, and the fact that one of the most loved villains (purely cuz he looks so cool and hard) Venom, wasnt in the film much. People love action and fighting, but it can get too much. This film balanced it well with various storylines e,g mary jane and uncle ben. Think comic book fans would be a little disapointed to see some of the main guys killed of in such a bad way! Plus people arent realising that venom never dies! only his living carryier can die. If you notice, Harry brushes of the symbriote at the end, and the scientist guy also haves a speciment of venom in a container. We havent seen the last of Venom! The red goblin is still yet to come. Overall brilliant film, but as always had some bits which dissapointed.
Jamie Guy , wolverhampton, england
I just think that having 30 min. of Venom in a 2h30m Spider Man movie is so ungrateful...
And the worst is the fact the character died in the final whitout a chance of putting him in the 4th film.
It´s really a shame.
fernando leite, Feira, Portugal
I thought Spiderman 3 was good. A little too long though and the middle of the movie seemed to drag on. The best scenes were with the new goblin and the sandman. The special effects were awesome when Flint Marko became sandman(the birth of sandman) and throughout the movie. I kept thinking though, were the hell does all that sand come from if he is an average size man! Anyways, I guess you let your imagination go with it. Venom was very cool and the toughest of the villians and the meanest! I thought the way spiderman defeated Venom was not very good though! I wanted to see more fighting scenes between spiderman, sandman, venom and the new goblin. Good movie overall though and worth seeing to be entertained for a 160 minutes!
Sean, Irvine, United States/ California
The movie was deffinetly te best of its time, maybe the best i have ever seen. I don't understand why there is so much controversy going on about this movie. I saw one person said that Raimi was dissapointed when he was asked to put Venom in the movie. The truth is he was fine with it. I read on a post quoted by Raimi himself that he was fine with it. I believe Raimi wanted to stay true to the comics. By putting Venom in he did so. Raimi is mostly affialiated with the 60's and 70's comics not when Venom was introduced. Another person said the sandman shouldn't have been in the movie. that is totally wrong. He was one of spider-man's best villians. Venom was not created until the symbiote came off of peter and went onto Eddie Brock, so what would the rest of the movie be,all fight scenes with Harry? As for he beat Venom in a crap way, no way. The symbiote doesn't like loud noises it is sufficient. Spidey did the dance moves but I did not find it funny it was the symbiote taking over.
Marc , Seabrook, New Hampshire
I loved this movie,it was so entertaining there was'nt enough time to get venom into it more because they had to show the evil side of spidey.
it was all build up to the end,which was really cool,think about it if harry died then it would be too much of a good ending 2 good against 2 evil and evil lose both of their guys and good go fine and dandy it would be too much of a good ending.
if harry didnt die you would probably be given out so stop being so impulsive.
sure it was a bit cheesy but it was really funny
and stop going on about america,they put it in because it matches the costume.
and anyway it mostly meant for teenagers and i should know i am one
Aran, Bray, Ireland
Spiderman was cool. I liked it because it had action and I liked the super villans. You should see this movie if you want to see action. If you go to the movie and do not like it, you should make a review like I did.
Jordan, Los Angeles, CA
i thought it was a great movie. i could say all my little complaints but that would be dumb because it doesnt matter to me. i love spiderman, i know the director is passionate about what he does, and like this one comment i read, i am just greatful that there are spiderman movies to go see.
Jenna , Garden Grove, USA, CA
spiderman 3 should better be known as... spideman turns emo!
Liz, Seattle,
Enough about the stupid flag thing to ut it simple it ok the have the flag becuase it takes place in amerca and spiderman is american!!! Anyways about the movie....
I thought it was totally awsome ill rate it 4 stars/ 5 stars! Here is what i also think!
Postivie: Special effetcs.. peters emo hair/ bad side, having 2 villains in the movie, pretty good acting (about 85% of the time) I say 2 thumbs up or more if i had more!! everything else was good, it was really epic and they added a lil twist of comedy! i also that it was way better and totally unexpected then the other 2 movies
Negatives: not enough venom, the dance moves were pretty bad but i understand why they put that part, peter did cry a lil too much, a lil to much romance, and not enough depth into the character
I just thought it was simply awsome!! I cant wait till the next movie and i still dont get why people hate the movie..oh well I LOVE YOU TOBY MAGUIRE!!
Elizabeth, NewMarket, Canada
This movie was a dreadful disappointment. I was very excited about seeing it and got tickets a week in advance for IMAX. Maybe it was just my expectations were too high, but I was actually excited for it to be over. The entire thing was contrived and sophomoric , I'm sorry thats an oversight it is less then that it was not even Freshamoric. Even the excited prepubescent fanboys around me left feeling let down. Its no wonder the cast is sick of the franchise, they knew how bad this movie was. The script was terrible and it dragged the entire way. The fight scenes were few and far between and lacked any plausible realism (I know the whole concept lacks realism but the CGI was too much), plus I was so bored I did not really care by the end. Oh and bad ass Tobey just did not work - I like him as an actor, but a new hairstyle and ridiculous dancing to be cool was laughable. corporate Hollywood sold spiderman's soul.
Craig Shames, Boston, MA
I saw spiderman last night. Not as good as the other two but good special effects. Considering it took them two years to make i thought they could have come up with something of a better story/plot.
Anyway overall it was good entertainment but it could have been better and shorter.
Manish , London
Manish, london,
i read one comment that said sandman was not needed in the film, i disagree cause even if you were going to have venom as a cliffhanger who would have been needed to fill in the action parts up until the end? not just a crane, not just robbers. i was also dissapointed to see that venom was in the movie for about 20 or so minutes, i was very excited to see him in the film i think raimi almost tried to shove it in our faces that he doesnt like venomn and that he was only in the movie to make a few extra dollars. with all that being said it was still a very good movie, i think we all might have been expecting way too much after the second film was so well put together, i think if this film came out before the first or second (obviously u couldnt have the loose ends like uncle ben or harrys father) then it would have gotten rave reviews, now i dont see how it could have been possible to make this film any better than the second it was just too good to improve.
Justin, Windsor, Canada
What are ya all babbling about this was on of THE most amazing movies i ever saw, amazing special effects, they almost tore you in to the screen,a lot of action, lots of twists and turns in the story and more supervillains than the last 2 movies combined. It even think its gonna be very hard to surpass this 1 with Spiderman 4.
Nick Vroomen, Kerkrade, Netherlands
Just saw Spidey 3 last night, with a sold out theatre. Here's a tip to all of you hollywood directors, sit in a sold out theatre and see how an audience reacts to the pacing of a film. By the time the first 1hr and 10 minutes had gone by, you heard the signs of a really restless audience. Mainly due to the several scenes (and characters) that weighed down the pace of the film like an anchor on a ship, the Peter Parker soul train dance sequences, Harry and MJ and their "Emerald live" scene in the kitchen to name just a few---and, as many have said before, the extra characters that the story could have done without, the blond classmate, the sandman (though he was cool to watch). (It would have been nice to see a great deal more of Venom's character explored. He had a battle the last 1/2 hour of the show and that was it. )
Overall it was a good film with exciting moments here and there--but definately could have used a little more editing on script and on the screen.
lisa, aaaaa, aa
So American Flag aside, this movie was a huge dissappointment. The only thing that topped the horrible writing was the horrible acting. There is something to be said for the fact that during what was supposed to be a tear jerking scene, the entire theatre burst out laughing because of the sheer cheesiness of it. They tried to squeeze so much into this movie that they forgot to actually develop the plot. Venom was in the movie maybe 5 min, when he could have been a villain who carried an entire other movie. Oh and I can't sign off with out the mention of the jazz club dance off, which was just plain ridiculous. Frankly, I think that the makers of this movie were counting so much on the fame of Spiderman to make them money, they very blatently assumed that an average moviegower is not going to notice that the movie is a huge dissapointment.
D, New York,
Hands down, the worst film I have ever seen. I want those 2 1/2 hours of my life back.
Jackson, London,
Leo Lewis if it wasnt for GI's and the USA you would be a lampshade.
Steven, Chicago, illinois
Spider-Man 3 Rocks!
Just QUIT IT...This is a COMIC BOOK Movie! You people quit expecting it to be My Best Friend's Wedding or Titanic. It was an awesome experience for anyone who wanted to see a knock-out summer movie with a satisfying story and some wonderfull action scenes. It added enough fun for everyone to enjoy including my wife who wants to see it again. It was a little bit cheesy in places but hey it is a super-hero movie, and that is to be expected. I would also like to add that I loved the American flag shot! Good to see some people in Hollywood still take pride in their country.
Josh, Marion, Arkansas
From what I have heard in interviews, the reason why this movie failed to deliver like the amazing first two is because nobody involved wanted to work on this movie. Toby Maguire and Kirsten Dunst were both tired of the franchise and wanted to move on, and Sam Raimi was insulted when Sony made him add Venom to the movie when he was wanting to hold him to the next one. I mean, come on, if this guy makes blockbusters, why second guess his ideas like that? I'm dissapointed with the film when you consider how great it could have been if they hadn't tried to make it such a merchandising scheme.
Dusty Sullivan, Mize, Mississippi
I thought it was pretty amazing. And James Franco did an awesome job acting throughout this whole movie.
Sam, Madison, WI
Apparently a lot of you have never sat down and read a Spider-man comic or any Marvel comic at that because if you had you would understand why the movie was set up the way it was...its made after a comic obvious enough and in comics that don't stick to one current flow of a single event but many at the same time and although they didn't stick strictly to everything in the comic obviously because they couldn't fit the Secret Wars into the plot line but I thought they did an excellent job working everything in. And the American flag? i can't believe thats all you people are focusing on in the movie who gives a crap about an American flag showing up in a movie besides he's a superhero they always have to make a superhero seem totally over the top patriot it doesn't mean they're shoving american patriotism down your throat...just a suggestion but maybe you people need to actually read one of the comics before you start slamming the structure of the film.
Immy, Hell, Michigan
I have recently become an American citizen.
Here are a few things that I LOVE about this great country.
1.Freedom.
2.The wonderful American people who are always willing to give generously to help less fortunate Americans and people all over the World.
3.How Americans fight and die every day to help other people gain the freedoms we have. Japan and Germany Korea, Philipines Russia etc. and soon Iraq.
4.ALL people are able to attain their full potential if they are prepared to work hard irrespective of race religioun or creed.
5.Where else in the world can you win a green card in the lottery come to the States, 6 years later have a great business 2 cars, kids at great schools.
6. I am so grateful and feel so proud to live in the USA.
7.God bless this country and all it stands for it is the shining light of the world.
8. The USA is not perfect but the good so far outweighs the bad.
Please don't walk in our shadow bask in our light.
Steven, Chicago, illinois
I cannot understand why everyone is using the space allocated for the review of a movie(especially one geared towards the enjoyment for our kids) as a political platform. Everyone should be proud of his country's achievement. If the Americans are proud they have all right to. Therefore, the display of a national symbol in a movie should not create such a pitiful debate. Please use the space for its intended use and stop attacking each other in such a cowardly way.
ASO, Kingston, Jamaica
i love the movie it was great
Aran, Bray, Ireland
I have never been a fan of superhero movies. Until, I watched all three spiderman movies this weekend. Needless to say, I will forever be a fan of spiderman. His character more than a flat cardboard stand as other movies have portrayed superheros. Spiderman has depth, love, hate, jealousy, revenge, grief, and emotion vulnerability instead of some weird scienitific physical threat. Spiderman is just like us. As his aunt stated there is a hero in all us. I can only hope that there is another spiderman movie. He is the superhero for this age where spiderman has to contend with what we all have to contend with, emotional fraility. As for the American Flag, Yeah Raimi, spiderman is AMerican made..........Marvel Comics again American born and bred. The shot of the American Flag is perfect representation of overcoming all deficits to combat the enemy. Yeah Raimi for giving that quick glimspe of this symbol that continues to stand for the overcoming of evil.
chris, peoria, illinois
Oh god...so dissapointing. 3 stars? Your far more generous than I was. The movie was the most disjointed, abominable piece of crap known to man, full of inconsistencies, bad attempts at morality, and some horribly bland romance.
Peters dark side just...wasn't dark. He just looked like a wannabe goth. Heart of Darkness this ain't.
The romance was absolutely pitiful, not to mention the plot contained more holes than swiss cheese. I won't spoil it, but suffice to say this movie seems to be assembled by 10 different people, and then cut together by an amateur director with a faible for b-movie romance...and the stars and stripes? Oh please. I understand spidey is an american hero and all, but it was just so in your face it was annoying....go get bin ladey spidey. Oh, and kids, go visit your local recruiting office.
Not that it was all bad. The fight scenes were great, if somewhat repetitive, and the special effects were stunning. Still, that has never made a movie. 1 star.
Andrea Varotsis, Providence, RI, USA
I watched Spiderman 3 in a packed theater on Friday night in Bloomington, MN. When the giantic American flag appeared upon the return of the good spiderman, the ENTIRE theater erupted into laughter at the ridiculousness of the shot. Comforting to know that the public is starting to see the laughability of such patriotic propaganda.
James, Minneapolis, Minnesota
Well i thought the acting was shocking, the effects were a bit rubbish and as Harry from London rightly points out they turned into a chick flick. I did walk out of the cinema along with a load of other people - I believe i left about half an hour before the end but by that time many people had already decided they couldnt stand any more. A big disappointment. And what was sandman about??? I was in hysterics it was that bad.
Renato Guatamacchi, Santiago, Chile
i have mixed feelings. I enjoyed the film, storyline and effects where good. I am a die hard spidey fan though and i am getting annoyed of the constant diversion from the comics. Each film appears to be drifting further and further away from the true plot. Venom is on screen for 15 minutes? come on? one of spideys greatest foes gets fifteen minutes? then theres marko flint saying he killed ben? no he didnt.
Its annoying that marvel would let the producers get away from the plot so much, but at the end of the day i did enjoy it ; just do not understand the need for changing a fantastic series of comics
Adam, Liverpool,
Spiderman 3 was amazing film, i enjoyed watching it was worth it. The effects was amazing venom n sandman especially sandman i was amazed with the graphics. Like in the cartoon when the symbiote bonds with peter he becomes more of a dark sided person. Harry as Green Goblin was great but not as better then Norman he was better green goblin. Mary jane look great in the movie but her scream lol so loud. SPIDERMAN 3 WAS THE GREATEST MARVAL FILM IV EVER SEEN.
The Spider, London, Hounslow, UK
it was over the top, to many stupid effects & goings on, at one point I forgot I was whaching spider man, me & my girlfriend where very dissapointed! Most times I dont like leaving to go to the toilet coz I hate missing parts of films, but in this case i didnt actually care, they completely ruined everything in my eyes, I didnt think it was acceptable as a 12 either, I mean some of the scenes where abit ott, I mean the bit where he had his head against the train & it was Just waring down, replaced with sand it dont look as gory, but if it was red it would Just be a typical horror movie scene if you see where im coming from, I just hope pirates of the carabian is good. Sorry spidey, but you havnt got my vote.
Joe, Rochester, England
Why did they turn a comic hero action film into a tearjacking, cringing chick flick? I almost walked out of the cinema. Worst film I have seen in years. I rather watch Titanic again.
Harry, London,
To put it simple... the movie overall sucked!
It would have been better to be split into 2 movies, having the split just when Spidey sheds the black suit and Brock first turns into Venom... That would have made a great cliffhanger and would have given more time for character development with two movies. I found that the movie skipped throughout trying to rush the story and cram too much into one. I found that the only character development that showed and had something to it was Frank Marko, Eddie Brock Jr., and J.J. Jameson (and his scene in the office with pills was the best in the flick).
As to the flag.... there was one???
It was just a wee bit over the top at that moment, I preferred the flag moment at the end of the movie like the previous two.
John, Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada
Well fans- it finally arrived. SM3. Bigger and badder than the other 2 films. Problem is, I didn't want bigger and badder. I just wanted something with the same heart and emotion. I found this one lacking both. Good special effects, yes, but as some others have said, Sandman was totally unnecessary. His only purpose I could determine was to create a need for Harry's character to come help and return from his evil side. That, if it was even necessary, could have been done better without Sandman.
The ending really seemed like an afterthought. The movie is over-how do we end it in 2 minutes after 2 hrs 15 min of rollercoastering all over the emotional chart? Worth seeing? Of course it is. Could it have been better if not so long, busy and overpopulated with villians? Definitely.
If there is a SM4 Rami will be hard put to continue the saga without Harry. That's where the true story line was and has been since the first movie. So long Harry.
steve white, Branson, Missouri
The movie was actually rather alright, I thought. They could have focused a little more on the ass-kickery but it wasn't so terrible. The special effects were great and Raimi managed to actually stay true to the comics.
Also the whole flag episode was bullshit! C'mon! How retarded did it look?! Why would you even WANT to add this horse shit into a film like Spiderman which would get a whole lot comments if not spark off so many political debates? People are actually talking about Osama/Bush/the Middle East etc over a stupid clip of a fictional comic book character shot against the backdrop of a flag?! And Ew from Atlanta. GA -- GET OVER YOURSELF. NO country wants America to do ANYTHING for them. NO ONE was/is/will be knocking on your doors asking for any sort of help because everyone is capable of running their own countries. So get off your high-horse and stop spewing random bullshit.
Sheena, BL, India
After reading everyones comments i felt obliged to write a review.
In my opinion the move was good but nothing in comparison to the other 2. Effects brilliant and some good comedy. Like many others I didnt like the flag, even if the flag was british, japan or any other counry i would not like it, to overbearing. I felt the movie was to long but this was because of the incredibly slow start and slow middle. I also felt robbed with the ending. Great films have a great beginning middle and end mostly.
Most importanty this brought Venom to the screen and repectfully too so its a good film lol
jason Hendry, cleethorpes, England
biggest disapointment ever. since spiderman 1 ive been waiting for venom and when he finnaly hits the big screen hes on ly on it for like 9 percent of the whole damn thing..and the black spidey montage was way to short before it ended... sand man was so unnessesary and why o why did harry have to die....the movie was filled with so much of parkers dailey life and emo phase crap that they failed to focus on the good stuff. if your going to sardine four enemys and i say four loosly ( parkers evil side is being counted in this one ) then why fill the movie with so much garbage that has nuthing to do with the plot...end result, dispite the fact that black spidey and venom were freakin awsome to the max the film sucked balls ..it made topher grace look like a resonible actor for venom...and hes not dead.
they should have just focused on one enemy woulda made the movie that much better ..what could have been a golden 10 turned out to be a rusty magget infested 4and iam being genorous.
mike, providence, usa/ rhose island
A lot of the comments here just re-enforce the perception that Americans have an unthinking, simple-minded patriotism and an incredibly naive view of their country's actions abroad.
The knowledge of world history displayed here is also embarrassingly ignorant and is probably gleaned from Hollywood movies rather than reputable history books!
Firoz, London, UK
Yeah the whole flag thing kinda caught me strange while watching the movie, but now in hindsight, i think its cool in its own right. And yeah sure venom didn't show up till late in the movie ( which just built the suspense for him even moreso), and there was poor character development, but Come On! This is Spider-Man 3, I'm just happy enough that they are even making spider-man movies for me to go see um. Yeah i could've been better, but i still think it was great, and will definitely go see it again in theaters just for fun.
James K, Troy, Michigan
I was dissapointed, there was hardley any fightng in it and it was too long.
Also, venom gets killed in a crap way.
However, I ike the ending with unkul ben's killer
bob, derby, uk
I thought the movie was excellent....I actually enjoyed it more than the first two. Good couple hours' worth of fun.
Simple solution to those who don't like America, don't care for it, or thought it was awful or ridiculous to appear in the scene with Parker: GET OUT! Then you won't have to gripe.
Oops, look there, an open can of worms.
kentson, Ft Worth, TX
I think it's stupid that everyone is just focusing on the american flag...who cares? yes it was a little cheesy but so what? talk about the rest of the movie...I thought it was good...a little cheesy and a little too much of peter parker crying but I thought it was good and really funny.
mary, windsor, canada
Spiderman 3 was terrible, the greatest villian (venom) who matches spidey in every way gets killed in the lamest way ever! also the shot of spidey coming to the rescue with the american flag in the background!!!!! WHY????? i think that it was just unnecessary!
Ben, london, UK
Spider-man 3 was terrible! Throughout the entire movie the audience broke out into laughter during the "serious" scenes. The acting was bad, the directing was bad, the writing was bad. I think that this will be one of the biggest flops of the year. It will be a movie that will be fun to rent and have a good laugh at later.
Andy Nelms, Coweta, Oklahoma
"America is the face of democracy and freedom". I guess that depends who you are. Osama is a direct product of America's bloody foreign policy - he is a US trained operative. The 3000+ civilians shot in cold blood by US troops in the Panama in the 80's might feel differently as well (and guess what administration that invasion happened under - Bush senior). America looks after it's own interests first, and that is patently obvious to the rest of the world. The only one's in denial seem to be Americans themselves, which is what the rest of us find so bemusing.
I don't think anyone's saying America is the face of evil, but it's certainly not the absolute good the teary eyed references to the flag in your culture make out (of which the short scene in Spiderman 3 was just another example).
K. Williamson, Phoenixa, Arizona
the british only have a real problems with americans because you guys are so proud of all that you have "achieved" in the 200 odd years your country has been in existence. We GAVE you democracy, your nation is none other than a bud off of ours, and yes you have every right to be patriotic, but only up to a point. We didn't, as you so eloquently put it, "beat the hell out of the germans," we did what needed to be done at the time. WWII wasn't a massive victory for either of our nations, it was infact a loss of humanity the world over. Despite what our nation leaders think, we are not infact true allies. Americans are moderately despised this side of the pond because of what you are doing to yourselves [obesity issues], what you are doing to other countires [the unjust war in the midle east, fuelled by hypocracy, beaurocracy and an corrupt government] and what you are doing to us [involving us in all of the above].
Andrew, London,
What?! Get over it - it's not even worth 5 minutes in the whole movie! The American Flag will be interpreted different by many - I for one (and after briefly reading the comments, appear to be the only one) who didn't notice - however it's not for anyone to say whether it's use was right or wrong. After all, isn't it supposed to stand for freedom: of speech, of action, of rights?
I went to see Spiderman 3 on Thursday; but I can't say that I was disappointed. I know, I've read all the reviews and I feel that generally, opinion is that it was a let down. I thought that the acting was scrappy at times and I wanted to see more of Venom - much more of Venom, and more depth to Sandman. However, there is only so much you can do with a plot, when Raimi has been handed yet again the scaffold of this Spiderman film.
They managed to finish it...the trilogy...true to the comics, and still the best remake. The special effects were great. btw, I loved emo Peter, very Panic! at the Disco
Ella Lou, Sydney, Australia
...wake up people. We're in the future. Flags and overt displays of nationalism only undermines our potential to become a inified species.
cj, london,
absolute rubbish....
cj, London,
Why does everybody insist on blasting America and saying that our flag doesn't represent peace and freedom? freedom and democracy are exactly what our flag represent. it's so popular nowadays to criticize the US and not give us any credit for anything. but the last i remember while we had a revolution to escape tyranny and oppression and to establish a free democracy all of europe and the rest of the world was suppressed by monarchial rule. not until we succeeded in democracy did the rest of the world finally wake up. America IS the face of Democracy and freedom.
and by the way, why are British peeps trying to speak poorly of the US and are efforts in WWII. We're not supposed to hate on each other. we both beat the hell out of the Germans together. the UK got it done in the Atlantic and the US in the pacific. some people have forgotten that we're still allies and should act like it sometimes cuz when it comes down to it, we both believe in virtually the same values.
Jennings Imel, Los Angeles, CA
Title SPIDERMAN 3 ain't appropriet! and the movie should be called "Marry Jane & Spiderman"
The balance between action and romance in this movie is TOOOO even,... after we saw the movie i realized, that in Spideman 3 only GUY who didn't cry was the J.J (redactor of the Dayly Bugle) !!!
The movie is so overfiled with romance and "love" sequences it makes me sick.... and don't get me wrong, when i go to the cinama to see a romance movie with my GF i expect romance, kissing and not that somene kicking ass all the time...! And when i go to se and ACTION movie, ohhh well...
NEGATIVE:
1.To much romance
2.To much of Marry Jane (i love the actress but she ain't SPIDERMAN)
3. The US flag was a typical US movie "stunt" =kitch
4. PPL in this movie CRY TOO MUCH="sopeopera"
POSITIVE:
1. Verry good action (when there is action!)
2. Verry nice special effects
3. Good scrypt true to a original Spiderman comics.
OVERALL 7/10
Michael R, Århus , Denmark
The script was abysmal. Kirsten Dunst's character in particular was made the mouth piece for such cheesy, unreasonable, and self absorbed feminine angst that it is awful to watch this time around. Justifying dysfunctional emotional drivel by appealing to the politically unchallengable forum of female feelings is banal in the extreme, and belongs in a soap opera not a comic book movie.
The "villians" suffer from a similarly canned moral dyslexia. Nothing makes sense if you scratch the surface or think too long, and the idea that emotional weight can be loaned to an inadequate script by rolling tears down the cheeks of characters as they struggle through bumper sticker lines is cynical. The movie carried none of the dark weight of the source material this time, and all of the corniness.
And that soft, glowingly lit shot of the American flag was cringeworthy. As Spidey swung up to the action afterwards, all I could think of was the inane myopia that pushed Raimi to think it was a good i
K. Williamson, Phoenix, Arizona
i really don't know how i feel about this third installment. i've looked forward to seeing this movie for so long, and i built it up soo much after seeing every trailer.this movie was not exactly what i expected. first sandman is visually pleasing when he turns into sand, that's it, they should have cut him out and found closure on uncle ben's death another way.second venom is too much of a major spiderman character to lack so much character developement in this movie. forget sandman, focus on venom, in the movie,he has a small role and few lines, biggest disapointment ever. everyone in this movie gets too emo, even mj w/ the damsel in distress thing (to much crying, suffering, moaning, getting hit, and getting kidnapped). and harry's butler just forgets to mention that spiderman didn't kill harry's father, COME ON. the butler just let harry suffer and plot for years, when he knew how mr. osborn really died, please.this movie just packs too much into 3hours,it takes away from the story
Kevin, North Wales, PA
to lisa from nsw Australia, incase you wonderd why Americans were claiming spider-man to be their creation,
uh DUH, BECAUSE IT IS AN AMERICAN CREATION !!!!!!!!
Peter Parker, is an AMERICAN, LIVING IN NY
HOW MUCH MORE APPLE PIE AMERICAN does it need to be to prove it ?
and yes im dissapointed that the movie was so cluttered.
John, FL, USA
Spiderman may have been a little on the chessy side with all the sappy love scenes but I think it brought out a lot of good messages hopefully the younger and older crowds can pick up and take these lessons with them and use them in everyday life. I teach inner city children so when the message was sent that "You always have a choice" I had to share this with my kids and Don't waste your life on hate and anger and revenage was another important theme. Too often movies are all blood and gore and I think spiderman is a change from all of this. Its focused on the main audeince, children and they are very impersonable people and I think its important that messages are sent out in a way where they will be interested.
Gina , Matawan, USA NJ
i really don't know how i feel about this third installment. i've looked forward to seeing this movie for so long, and i built it up soo much after seeing every trailer.this movie was not exactly what i expected. first sandman is visually pleasing when he turns into sand, that's it, they should have cut him out and found closure on uncle ben's death another way.second venom is too much of a major spiderman character to lack so much character developement in this movie. forget sandman, focus on venom, in the movie,he has a small role and few lines, biggest disapointment ever. everyone in this movie gets too emo, even mj w/ the damsel in distress thing (to much crying, suffering, moaning, getting hit, and getting kidnapped). and harry's butler just forgets to mention that spiderman didn't kill harry's father, COME ON. the butler just let harry suffer and plot for years, when he knew how mr. osborn really died, please.this movie just packs too much into 3hours,it takes away from the story
Kevin, North Wales, PA
It's just a movie! Who cares about a flag showing in the background! It doesn't in anyway carry the plot of the movie so why is everyone all worked up over it! It's just stupid! Did you like the movie or not! Just state your opinion and shut up!
Mike Close, Virginia Beach, Virginia
Last time I checked, New York City is still located in the United States. Chances are, you're going to see a US flag flying somewhere.
If Spidey was based in London, I would expect him to ocassionally swing near a Union Jack. Or past a Rising Sun, were he based in Tokyo. Or heck, even a Maple Leaf if he were a native of Toronto. (I'd never expect him swinging by a Tri-Color. Outside of the Eiffel Tower, Paris doesn't have any skyscrapers.)
C'mon, Lew. Criticize the movie on it's merits, not it's politics.
Edward, Council Bluffs, IA, USA
Spiderman is an American creation. Stan Lee and Steve Ditko both Americans created the strip in August 1962.
Regarding the drawn out opening credits. It's a sequel do you think that they'll get right to the point? What about building anticipation, or showcasing the people that worked on this film?
the franchise has created a story that people can relate to on some level; precisely why its become so popular.
personally speaking I want a story and the action. Senseless action in movies like "crank" really don't have mass appeal exactly the reason why that movie is in the bargain dvd bin.
Trusz, Ontario, Canada
I am a girl, and I generally do not mind a sappy chick flick or two, but I did not come to see Spiderman 3 so I could see everyone CRYING. I think there should have been more action and less of Spiderman acting like a tool. And I realize that comic book movies are often conveniently staged - but this was so over the top. Amazing how the meteor with venom lands 10 feet from Spiderman and MJ. The man that killed Peter's father just happens to "stumble into" a particle testing pit. They should have spread the movies out a little more to add more plot and character development. This was just cheesy.
Becky, washington, nj,
I had the (well thought it would of been) pleasure of watching the movie yesterday and i have to be honest it was a waist of my money the characters were good yes but all the emo in it, it took the thrill right away. The bit with the american flag felt to me like the Americans were claiming Spider man to be their creation, The opening credits were good but draged out for to long.
What happened to filming it like the other Spider man movies? not as much lovey dovey bits keep them for the dramas and romance films. As i have understood spiderman is ment to be Action packed, Crime fighting EXPLOSIONS thing like that i was glad to get out of the cinemas, i'll stick with spiderman 1 &2 not as much emo more action!!!!
Lisa, NSW, Australia
I dont really think you have to be that cruel with Sam Raimi's creation... he was a well-known director of zombies films before this. He's not Almodóvar or Spielberg. His films arent that good. At all, the film was what it was expected to be: a blockbuster with over-acted plays and some spectacular fights over falling bridges and apocaliptic cities. In fact, I think it has got some quite good nail-bitting moments... that ones in which you say the famous: HE CANT DIE!!!!! Maybe its just another summer blockbuster. Maybe its a waste of money. And maybe its what the audience wants to see.
Stephen, Leeds, UK
Please could contributors state whether they have actually seen the film or not? As a huge fan of the US from the UK, living in Tokyo, I can only agree that the use of the flag was completely out of step with the movie and jarred as a cheap way to make a point that the script had failed to articulate successfully. Shame, because character underdevelopment aside, there were some good moments!
Alex Miller, Tokyo,
The US flag also stands for democracy and Christian values.
As does the UK, Australian and Canadian flags.
And all the other free democratic Christian countries.
Or should.
But that's not so PC these days, is it?
Sometimes the truth hurts.
Sometimes it's easier to get ugly than admit that you're wrong.
Nobody is saying that these countries are perfect, or their leaders are saints.
But why not ask the experts? Take a look at the international immigration direction:
The rest of the world is voting with its feet where it would rather live.
After the soviet collapse and the clear immaturity of China you would have thought that the tired old socialist rhetoric would have died out, but it seems the dinosaurs die hard.
How about getting to be part of the solution for a change instead of this personal angst-driven rebellion?
Anil Gulati, Sydney, Australia
I just saw the film yesterday, and I have to say i was really disappointed. The main reason why i wanted to see this movie is because finally Venom would be in it, but they didn't even introduce him until the last 20-25 minutes of the movie, and spent more time on Peter Parker doing stupid dance routines trying to make MJ jelous!!!! BOOOO!!!
TJ Bova, Manhasset, NY, USA writing from Germany
OK, enough with the interpretation on the flag and the spider-man sub-culture in America. It honestly too much of an analysis. Anyway, from watching the movie just now in Germany, I'd say the director did the very best he could to salvage a poor script. The sandman's history and character build-up is pretty thin, and so he fails to connect with the audience. Even as a gigantic homage to the character Tetsuo from the anime classic, AKIRA, the Sandman fails to portray a true threat to spider-man as it relates to the theme. As for Venom - well, the movie's main theme is SUPPOSED to be the way spider-man finally confronts the worst manifestations of his personality. The film is left with little time to develop Venom as a physical villain that directly endangers spider-man, so it's forced to turn to MJ as the go-to motivator to snap peter parker back to his "hero" senses. The movie should have focused more on the internal struggle of spider-man's duality, not a poor 4-way brawl.
Joe, Whittier, California, USA, writing from Germany
I'll give in to this discussion about the american flag and say that it makes perfect sense to me why, while it's not technically in poor taste, it IS an annoying split second in the movie. Let's face it, the movie plot SUCKED, the characters were not fully developed, even after 2 1/2 hours! So when spider-man comes to "kick ass", it's actually pretty annoying to have the american flag in the background, basically cuz spider-man hasn't really EARNED the patriotic emotion that the short scene is going for. IF, for example, the flag was shown in part 2 when he saves all those New Yorkers from the collision-course train, THEN it would have been perfect to somehow put the flag in there. The scene in part three? Dude, it's just spider-man going to fight 2 bad-guys that have been bugging him for the past 2 hours of the flick. Let's just show the american flag in every movie so that everyone can go buy tickets and prove how patriotic they are. Seriously, enough analysis, get over it.
Joe, Whittier, California, USA, writing from Germany
Well, I've just seen the film, and I'm still very much impressed, and not just by the amount of money or special effects, although the latter do play a major part in the picture, and could not do so without the help of the former...
But back to the film. About the shot with the flag: it's not the only shot with the stars and stripes in the film, and yes, as a european, I do find it disturbing to have flags all over the place; but this was already somewhat the case in the two first movies. All the houses in Peter's/MJ's lane have flags hanging from them...pathetic, yet close to reality, and anyhow, it sure doesn't change the way the film is received by the viewer.
In the New York of the Marvel universe, Spiderman is as much an icon of the city as the stars and stripes are of the country, and the fact that these two coexist in the film is just to further the credibility of the film, to fix it more soundly in a possible reality. I, for my part, think this works fine.
Anthony Garrett, Lyon, France
America only enetered WW2 after they got a good butt kicking from the japs! and by this time the Brits had already beaten Germany in the battle of Britain. So all this bull about the English speaking German if it wasnt for the USA is just another huge American lie! and lies are what the whole American way of life is based! all I have to say is if it wasnt for the Brits all the Americans would still be speaking Apache!
Jay Vaccaro, Barcelona, Spain
Mate, if it wasn't for the good ole UK you'd all be speaking french and hanging with the cheese eating surrender monkeys!
El, London, Great Britain
I suspect the majority of people here havent seen the film. I have, and if you go and see it when it comes out on general release youll understand the journalists point.
The scene in question with the flag, within the context of the film, is gauche, badly filmed and just plain looks stupid. I love the American flag and Im one of the biggest fans of America and its culture but this was just badly shot and you have to see it yourself to understand this. Of course, the implication was that when Spider-Man becomes good and true and pure and is racing to save the day its shot with old-glory behind him to rally the audience, but its over-egging the scene.
Perhaps (as someone who has actually seen it) Im talking the level of film criticism which nobody here seem to be interested in, rather a depressingly polarized pro or anti American stance. But anyway, the film is dreadful and not a patch on the first two and no amount of flags or absence of them is going to change that.
Oscar Acosta, Dubai,
Can Americans please stop saying that the English would all be speaking German now if it wasnt for them? If the Americans knew anything about Europe then theyd be well aware that German is a tricky language to learn and the vast majority of us Brits are far too lazy to bother becoming fluent in any other tongue.
Irwin Fletcher, London,
John McIever, you're right to say that world war two was not won solely because of america, but let me offer something further: america did bugger all towards defeating the Nazis.
you wanted to sit back and watch europe fall under hitler until pearl harbour, and even then you concentrated most of your efforts onto defeating Japan (ironically making yourself the only country in the world to use the most destructive weapon known to man, twice, despite your now pious stance on nuclear weapons), leaving the Russians to defeat Germany through the battle of Stalingrad and the British through D-day.
Oh, and America only helps nations when it'll help them right back. Heard of Darfur? where's america there?
Nicola, Liverpool, United Kingdom
The US flag isn't the symbol of freedom, it's the symbol of fifty modern states and thirteen historical founding states. It is an entirely local symbol representing no universal values.
On the other hand, a dove with an olive branch is widely accepted as the symbol of peace and freedom.
Me100, Cumbria, UK
Its sad that one shot in a movie has sparked a debate like this. 1st off before anyone here starts saying things please make sure you understand what your talking about :)
people who keeps saying "you would be speaking german if it werent for us", just stop. We would be speaking
german if it werent for them. In both world wars we were their for each other and if one or the other wasnt their we would have lost.Everyone in their country, no matter which country you live in, is patriotic. You would be quick to defend your country if people all over the world were ridiculing your country constantly. Let me bring up a point though. The US has never failed to support a country that has been hurt by a natural disaster, or an opressive goverment, or anything else.America is a great country and you cant deny that. Every country makes mistakes and this country has made more then a few. But most people forget America is still very, very, young as a country and has a lot to learn. God Bless.
Joe McIver, Las Vegas, United States of America
It's a shame so many of these comments seem to identify America with Spiderman. True, the reviewer made an irrelevant and pointless statement about the American flag, but the reaction has been way over the top. We ALL love Spiderman because he's a good guy and beats up nasty guys. Everybody in the world likes that idea and wish they could be him. He's American - great. Half of the X-Men aren't though, and nobody cares. The USA is just another country, with a Government which helps others when it feels threatened (politically or physically). It bears no comparison whatsoever with a Super Hero.
But - for the record, the flag shot is fine. Why not? There's plenty to really like about America. The Spiderman movies are a good example of that.
Tony, Geneva, Switzerland
This is simply a case of classic symbology: To one person an icon is a representation of evil; to others a good. This case has valid points upon both sides with regards to Spidey's roots and the fact that moral values can and are a global thing.
Most non-Americans actually can and do like America. Someone else spoke of judging by a career, not a mistake. Good. But the rabid "USA! USA!" attitude is much reminiscent of say, the same 'nationalism' in Iran. It's this over-fanaticism that freaks many.
For Gods sake chaps, just sit down, shut up and enjoy the film. That's to European and American viewers alike.
Just how long does this shot of the US flag last for in comparison to the rest of what looks to be a spectacular film...?
Douglas Roberts, Bangor, Great Britain
To Damian from the Bronx:
Baseball is merely a steroid-pumped version of a game invented long ago here in the UK, called rounders. It's played mainly by girls.
Dan, Reading, UK
Truth, justice, greed, murder and the American way.
Sounds like a good movie mind... well up for it
Timmy, London, UK
Come along children ! this is a movie for kids and it has got an awful lot of people ( adults ! ) worked up. Maybe the comment about the flag is a little offhand and has genuinely offended people but remember free speech etc......I for one would like to thank America for saving us from the nazis / communists / Japanese / Godzilla / selected aliens / beasts from other dimensions / ourselves . I would also like to mention that the patriotic feelings expressed by many people here is admirable, maybe we in Europe could do with a little bit more of it. God Bless America and Europe ( maybe not Germany ) ! Lets all make love !
teddy, liverpool, uk
Spiderman wouldn't surrender to Iranians.
FD Pilot, Richmond, VA
Please excuse my fellow Americans for taking themselves too seriously.
God save the Queen! *ahem*
Christy , Palo Alto, CA
Catherine,
I want to thank you for noticing the glaring omission from the last Superman movie. I was so upset when I heard the line altered to not include "the American way." Spiderman is an American creation, is set in one of the most iconic of American cities, and has always stood for the principles most cherished by the American public. I think that the presence of the American flag in the movie should be of little or no concern to a critic. If that is the only bad thing that can be said of this movie, then it undoubtedly is the best movies of all time!
Go Team America.
David , Tallahassee, United States of American / Florida
I have just rad this article and feel the author makes a valid point of opinion about what could been seen to be a 'cheesy' end to a film. What i realy dont understad is how on earth he could be seen to be acting 'unamerican' as so many of you have stated. It seems to me that the author is a film critic giving an opinion on a film! For all you small minded fools with a goldfishes knowledge of history who have turned this into a war of words about some of the greatest atrocities the world has ever seen what are you on about? The US hav'nt saved the world they seem to think they have to right to stamp all over the world for their own gain and derstroy inocent lives and communities for there own advantage no matter of the consequesnces you are to busy being swallowed up in your own propaganda machine to know the difference between right and wrong get a grip on reality people i mean isnt the US bulit on the notion of freedom of speach! Down with the capitalist US capitalist regime!
John, Dundee, Scotland
Our contributions as you so put it kept your relatives and quite possibly you from learning German!
Mark, Madison,
Typical American view, please remember that they were "world wars" hence everyone was involved!
I find this citing rather racist and unsettling, the context in which you so flippantly bring up a world war is somewhat disturbing!!!
If people want to debate patriotism within a film then fine, but claiming the US gave more in World Wars then others is both ignorent and egocentric!
Josh, London, UK
I'm sorry, is posting the American flag an embarassing thing to you? If you were trapped in a third world prison unjustly, and suddenly you saw soldiers suddenly appear.
Which flag would you like to see on their uniform?
A) the flag of the country you saw imprisoning you?
B) the flag of the Peoples Republic of China
C)the flag of the United States
What's embarassing is people like you who don't appreciate exactly what that flag means and the constitution it represents.
Jeff Zang, Jacksonville, Florida
"the first knocking on our door when the next anschluss comes" and others. Could they be referring to the 17-18 war or the 42-45 war? Personally I´m more concerned when historical fact is changed and the flag is draped over it (the film U571 anybody?).
KingEl13, Heidelberg, Germany
So Mr. Lewis, it's obvious that the American flag is a source of discomfort for you. Would you rather the old Soviet flag? UN? EU? Your comment is a sad reflection of the dying British spirit that is sweeping the UK. Your pride has been replaced by guilt and cultral loathing. While you may view flying the Union Jack as culturally insensitive or even offensive, we fly our Stars & Stripes proudly.
Jay, Providence, USA, RI
POT CALLS KETTLE BLACK, FLINGS ASPARAGUS
An American flag fluttering proudly behind Spidey in his moment of
triumph? Well, why not? Oh, I forgot; my country is aboslutely wicked,
mad, bad and dangerous to know ...or not.
Give it a rest, cousins. Yes, "Mad King George" Bush is a fool, yes,
invading Iraq was mad, yes we've got dire problems. Where did we
learn to behave like such arrogant, condescending, class- and
status-obsessed, money-hungry imperialists?
Why, from Mother England, you silly. We'll get over it, just as our British
cousins did, and probably in the same way: when we've made so
many enemies that we're no longer welcome anywhere.
Joseph Austin, Albuquerque, New Mexico
What I want to know, not in a spirit of anti-Americanism, but just of curiosity, is why so many Americans post on the website of a British newspaper?
betty , London, UK
I don't see any problem with the whole flag thing, it is a tad cheesy, but so are the comics the whole thing is based upon. I feel somehow that it has all been blown out proportion (by both the Americans and Europeans), it's just supposed to be a bit of fun in the end. Possibly I would see more of a problem if Spidey was up against enemies with questionable euro accents while wearing the flag as a cape or some such.
But as he isn't I think it's best to remember it is JUST A FILM stop crying about it.
Ivo, Berko, England
To my fellow Americans, I love the outcry of national pride, and I agree and back you all up 100 percent. This bunch of Eurotrash postings in here don't understand the concepts behind the movie and wish to throw cheap jabs about the Iraq war...how pathetic. As mentioned, the movie is American, the hero is American, the artist behind the comic is American, so why is it wrong for us to have national pride? I am never going to stop from being proud of where I come from and that is what kills the rest of the world. For they aren't as proud or as happy of where they live and wish to knock us for it. Its not our fault you don't have your Irish pride, or country patriotism like we do. And if you don't like American films, don't pay money to see them, for if you were born here we take pride in our flag and recognize it still waved high after the redcoats were booted from our land. Old Glory baby...wave on!!!!
Chris, Tampa, USA
It's too bad you are dissapointed in the America flag. I am proud to have it wave behind an American hero.
Venjeana, Grand Rapids, MI
What a lot of interesting comments over one shot in a film! Great to see that so many Americans are so proud of their country, and there is much to be proud of, but there is also much to be ashamed of - just like most countries really!
Shouldn't we be debating why the reviewer only gave the film 3 stars when, as its a Spiderman film it must be worth at least 5?
Nigel, Leeds, UK
The American flag IS supposed to equal all that is just and right. If that bothers you then I feel sorry for you.
John, LA,
hilarious!! every american comment comes chock full of "you'd be speaking german" or "God bless america" twaddle.
what they fail to understand is that it's this sort of small-mindedness that really annoys the real world. every comment basically underlines the point that leo lewis was originally making.
Brian, London,
I am sure Spiderman 3 is a great film.
Cant wait for the Fantastic 4 as well now they have the CGI to do the Silver Surfer.
Marvel Comics is American so l can see what the problem is with the flag.
We regularly produce mediocre films banging on about how hip London is when it really isnt at all.
Checkov, London,
Bill, I'm not sure they'll understand the irony !!
Ade, Maidstone, UK
All Superheros are AMERICAN! What other flag would be flying behind our wonderful web-head!? The British flag!? Many countries owe America a huge debt of gratitude and the sight of the American flag should be inspiring.
Tedd, Houston Texas, America
I saw the film at the preview screening the other night and whilst the flag scene is very blatant it doesn't really trouble me or offend my UK sensibilites. As a comic fan though it does strike me as a little hypocritical, and cynically exploitative of the rightly patriotic US public, when you consider that Marvel recently killed Captain America because his 'apple pie' morally strong values no longer fitted in with the violent and corrupt US world of today. I'd just like to know whether they feel the American Dream is alive, dead, or just suitable for exploitation when it helps the dollars roll in? If I were American I think that would infuriate me far more than the words of one reviewer
Dan Turner, London, UK
"America has done more to further the pursuit of peace, medicine, science, technology and charity than all other countries combined throughout history."
And there was I thinking that almost every major invention and scientific discovery in the past 3 000 years was European or Asian, that the Greeks created the first democracy, that an English king signed the Magna Carta, that the idea of freedom and human rights was first put forward by British philosophers, that the British defeated Napoleon and became the first major country to take an active role in eliminating the slave trade, and that they along with the French started the war against Hitler which the Soviets finished. I have learnt a lot today.
The US has been a force for good over the past 100 years (I'd rather see thae stars and stripes than the hammer and sickle), but let's not be silly.
LB, oxford,
"If it wasn't for the American flag you would be speaking German. Or Russian. "
Pray tell me, what language would you be speaking if it were not for us?
LB, oxford,
You gripe about having the American Flag in a story about an American Hero figure?
Dude, get over yourself!
Greg, Scottsdale, USA
Paul in NY.
Even though I have not seen the movie I have to ask myself why it's a problem "to give audiences that warm, fuzzy feeling inside." as you state. Isn't that why one goes to the movies? Should I assume you are not a fan of the flag and/or this great country?
Love of country is easy for some, hard for people like you.
Kip , Temecula, CA
I can solve the problem. Make your own movie's. That way you won't have to subject yourself to "American Made Movies"
Of course the flag sceen is "cheesy". It is a big budget Hoolywood Film. It caters to the lowest common denominator....and unfortunatly that can mean Americans sometimes. It is a MOVIE!!
Maybe when other countries create a big Hoolywood like place they can put in thier own cheesy moments, but untill then I guess you will have to keep watching our films...being that you can't make your own.
Clay Drury, Dallas, TX
Not only that but you are obviously ignorant of the history and tradition of the use of the American flag in the super-hero comic genre that has roots in the '50s and '60s of my youth. You should write about topics that you actually understand. But I get where you're coming from. You provoke and keep poking at folks that have a positive opinion of America. We're big enough to take it and I consider you on the annoyance scale of an aggressive horsefly. *grin*
Mark Blackmon, Arden, North Carolina
The fact that this has become an argument is comical. It is an American movie, that happens to have widespread appeal. That does not imply that there is some obligation to make a ficticious superhero an international icon, whereas any reference to another country is unacceptable. You don't hear any Americans complaining that James Bond works for a British intelligence agency. A flag is not an endorsement of a current administration or a political party, it is a symbol of the idealistic values of a country, and if you look at the actual history of the character in question, you will realize he is meant to be the living embodiment of these ideals. It is no coincidence that his costume has red, white and blue in it.
Lucious, Washington DC, DC, USA
Well being as it is an American hero and the original comics had a strong sense of patriotism, it would make perfect sense for Raimi to maintain that angle. Afterall, the movie has mirrored the comic very well, for the most part.
But I guess someone would actually have to know a little about the original comics to understand that. Seems like someone is grabbing for straws to find something to whine about.
carson, houston, usa
Phil from Germany succinctly expressed my thoughts, so I'll just repeat in the vain hope it doesn't get lost in all of this jingoistic noise:
"I think that the point he is making is beautifully illustrated by the responses."
Tim, Melbourne, Australia
Mr. Lewis must be yet another self deceptive member of the tribe that hates everything American. Hates everything Western for that matter. They hate America, hence hate the flag. But they love making/stealing money from America, fleecing the rubes. What a hypocrite.
Donald Blake, NY, NY
Every nation has patiotism.
Anyone ever see the opening ceremonies of Olympic Games?
Spiderman/Peter Parker is a American hence the American flag.
I would find it disturbing if a country's flag/symbol was not in the final good guys win ending of a fictional/comicbook/manga hero movie.
I believe many are reacting with their personal view of the United States goverment's policies.
What ever your views, when was the last time YOU contacted YOUR representatives in YOUR country to tell them YOUR opnion on how to run YOUR country?
L.B., Phoenix, USA/AZ
"Europe has always resented us, for the very reasons we like to throw in their face; speaking German, Russian, etc"
People have turned a throw away comment into a full debate and gone a bit OTT i think, some of the comments on here border on racism!
also people harking back to the war is just petty and infantile, every country did their bit so lets not pretend the US saved us all in WW2, you helped but then so did many countries -UK/Russia
Josh, London, UK
The point isn't that the reviewer has anything against the American flag. The point is that American jingoism is obnoxious, which is true. The point is that Spider-Man is a hero independent of the American brand loyalty that Raimi is essentially pushing here.
I'm pretty tired of the knee-jerk reaction from people who can't stomach even the slightest implication of something critical said about the United States -- which, for the record, this absolutely isn't.
There's nothing inherently heroic about the United States. Comments about our liberation of Europe more than 60 years ago have little bearing on the care with which we have to examine our actions today, and tomorrow.
Benjamin, Dana Point, California, USA
the american fist-thumping and small-mindedness that pervades their every comment on this page simply serves to underline leo lewis's original point.
Brian, London,
Good God - Americans really are bonkers - never more so confirmed than by the comments in this thread. Grow up and get out more.
Hugh Jampton, Chester,
to all those people who have said that spiderman is an AMERICAN superhero etc etc....
the times is a BRITISH newspaper and as such is entitled to express any anti-american view it decides is appropriate - a freedom that your press doesn't enjoy.
if you don't like it, go and read usa today or some other rag and try to spot the spelling mistakes.
Brian, London,
Perhaps you would like the flag of the cresent moon instead. That flag will be flying over Buckingham palace within a generation.
Fanuci, Greensboro, USA / NC
Well I liked Batman Returns best out of the Batman movies because it was darker. Hopefully this will along the same lines.
Spock, california,
Hmm... I see many, especially Brits, complaining that the American flag is out of place and aggravating to many in the rest of the world. The early returns from Japan are going to be staggering. SM1 was the all-time highest earning movie at that time. Do you really think that all your sniveling is going to have an impact on the sales of SM3? Methinks us Yanks should react in a like manner the next time a movie comes out including some of your beloved Royals.
TK, Phoenix, AZ
I think the individuals who have posted that view the Flag as propaganda have missed the entire point of having heroes. Heroes are ideals, they are human but show us both our flaws and potential. To me the flag shows us what it means to be American, or how an American citizen should be. It isn't meant to say how great we are, but challenge us to rise to the challenge and be heroes in our way.
Shortly after 9/11 Marvel published a special edition titled heroes. It showed their characters and their sorrow over the events, as well as the true heroes of the day. If you want to see more fo the flag and what it means to the artists and characters I suggest you pick it up... if you can even find it. That issue reminded us who sacrifices for our safety, this movie and the flag reminds us we can all reach that ideal of citizenry.
Sean Richards Tikkun, Ottumwa, IA
"However, the USA will continue to come to the aid of countries around the world that are threatened by enemies, natural disaster, etc."
Hilarious. How's that situation in Zimbabwe working out for you? or Algeria? or Darfur? Oh, whoops, I forgot - America only reacts when its own interests are threatened.
You guys really ought to get out of your country more.
Octavis, Oxford,
Oh horroers. The American flag?
Dear Mr. Lewis,
Do I need to say it? It is soooo obvious. But yet, it is true. And continues to be true. If it wasn't for the American flag you would be speaking German. Or Russian. Your high-browed arrogance is all the more assinine because of your rhetorical bed-wetting. It's a movie. Get over it.
Kevin, Bluffton, SC
I was worried you were going to tell me there was a scene with two girls kissing. It seems this is the in-thing these days in Hollywood for PG movies.
Since you tell me that the U.S. Flag is flying high in the movie, then I'll take my kids to see it. We must not be ashamed or embarrassed; it is a tremendous symbol of hope and freedom. I know I was not born here.
Commander, U.S. Navy
Dario, Tampa, FL
Spider-Man is an AMERICAN superhero!
Catherine, California, MD USA
Leo has been an expat in Tokyo too long. Remember where your passport comes from, Leo. You may need to go home one day.
Greg Sedmak, Tbilisi, Georgia
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