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Ian La Frenais is doing a zombie impression. “They were comin' towards us like this,” he says, holding out his arms and groaning as if he were one of the undead. “And here's me and Jimmy Nail in this f***ing hot-air balloon. That's when we realised where we had crash-landed - in the grounds of the Morpeth mental asylum! The patients must have looked up and thought: ‘Bloody hell, there's Oz comin' out of the sky'.”
It's Monday afternoon and we are in the garden of a relatively modest canyon home in Beverly Hills, Los Angeles. Which makes it all the stranger that I am standing here listening to a 71-year-old Geordie as he recounts a possibly exaggerated tale about a recent ballooning mishap in Northumberland with the former star of Auf Wiedersehen, Pet.
A few yards away, smiling tolerantly, is La Frenais' Essex-born writing partner of 44 years, Dick Clement. He also turns 71 this year.
It has been more than three decades now since La Frenais and Clement moved to LA to write an American version of Porridge, their second hugely successful British sitcom after The Likely Lads and its sequel, Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads?. And here in LA they have stayed - a little piece of England amid the 12-lane freeways and the In-N-Out burger joints. Both married Americans and both live just streets away in the glamorous 90210 zip code.
The symbiosis between Clement and La Frenais is obvious after only a few minutes in their company, during which they seamlessly edit each other's sentences and complete each other's anecdotes. And yet in many ways they're completely at odds with each other: La Frenais is cheeky, scruffy and unfailingly off-colour (the “Morpeth mental asylum” is actually St George's Hospital for Adult Mental Illness), while Clement has the calm, almost patrician air of an RAF wing commander.
When La Frenais complains of going back to his favourite Newcastle pubs only to be confronted by “Chilean sea bass and reservations, and no geezers”, you get the feeling that that is just the way Clement would like it. God only knows how they spend hour after hour trapped in a second-floor office here at Clement's house, often working on multiple scripts simultaneously.
I'm here to discuss why the duo have adapted The Likely Lads for stage almost half a century after they created it. In fact, the sketch that inspired the sitcom was the first thing that they wrote together after being introduced by a mutual friend in a Notting Hill pub. At the time Clement was a trainee BBC producer and La Frenais was doing, well, bugger all. The sketch could just as easily have been about their own friendship as the fictional one between the aspirational Bob Ferris (Rodney Bewes) and the defiantly working-class Terry Collier (James Bolam). The original series aired in 1964, with the sequel following a decade later, in colour. The play will debut at the £15 million Gala Theatre in Durham on June 11, with David Nellist and Scott Frazer as Bob and Terry. Fans of the television series shouldn't expect Bewes and Bolam to turn up, as they haven't spoken for 30 years.
“Jimmy was always very sensitive to being typecast,” La Frenais explains a little wearily. “Part of him loved doing The Likely Lads and part of him thought: ‘Every time I go to the newsagents, they're going to call me Terry.' We would have thought that it would have been rather fun to have done something that made you that well known. And I think he did worry about it too much. Rodney, for some reason, loved being Bob. And that was a kind of conflict. It's not that there was ever a problem on the set; it's just that they were different.”
The idea for a stage play came from Simon Stallworthy, the Gala's artistic director. “He did an adaptation based on our scripts,” La Frenais recalls. “We read it and thought it was funny, but because there was a writers' strike in Hollywood - me and Dick were walking around in circles all day outside the Fox studio lot with f***ing picket signs - we decided to do it ourselves.”
The plot follows that of Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads?: acts I and II are condensed versions of each season. Terry has come back from seven years in the army to find Newcastle changed beyond recognition. Bob is becoming ever more middle-class, while Terry tries to cling on to his youth through beer, birds and football. La Frenais says that the play remains set in the Seventies (“there won't be any mobile phones or Blackberries, none of that bollocks”) and has endured because “Bob and Terry are now considered part of the North East's culture”.
And how about Ant and Dec for the West End transfer? "Ant and Dec would be great," says Clement. "Not up to us, though, as we are not producing the show."
Clement and La Frenais are as busy as they have ever been after a relatively dry period during the Nineties, capped by their perhaps unwise decision to revive Auf Wiedersehen, Pet. And then along came Flushed Away, Goal!, The Bank Job and Across the Universe, an astonishing run that has turned the duo into the latest hot new things in Hollywood - if septuagenarians can be described as such. They are also among the few who can command as much as $250,000 a week for “script doctoring”.
“It's fantastic,” enthuses La Frenais, asked about the tweaks that they made to Bad Boys II and Pearl Harbor, “because it takes so long to get your own things made, and when you are doing a production rewrite you have all that adrenalin - there are people at the studio already designing sets, people looking for locations - and that's such a good buzz.”
“When we looked back at some of the old episodes,” Clement says, “they're a bit talking-headish. Lots of men sitting in pubs. So we had to focus on the best situations - that's why they call it ‘situation comedy', after all - and make them a bit more active. We tried to find two or three stories that really played well. And we added a lot of new stuff.”
Is it the dynamic of their own writing partnership that makes it so easy for them to write about other male relationships? “It's obviously a comfortable habitat for us,” Clement acknowledges. “The Commitments, Bank Job, Porridge, Auf Wiedersehen, Pet - it's all male bonding, isn't it?”
They are fascinated by real-life male pairings: Blair/Brown, Lennon/McCartney. “Relationships between comedians also interest us,” says La Frenais, “because, you know, with Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis, Martin couldn't abide Lewis. And you wonder how they do it, how they go on stage and put the smile on. Although with British ones, like Morecambe and Wise, they seem to be truly enduring relationships. They probably bolstered themselves better than the individual ones, the Sellers and the Hancocks and all the ones that just self-destructed.”
Perhaps there's an element of bolstering in their own partnership, I suggest. How do they indulge in writerly procrastination, for example, when there's someone else in the room? “Football takes up quite a bit of procrastination,” La Frenais confesses. “That and a bit of news from England.”
Clement chips in: “It really depends how much you're under the gun. Procrastination gets progressively less the nearer you get to the end of a script. The beginning of a script, before pages one, two, three, four, a lot of it goes on. But with each successive ten pages it gets a little bit less, and then you're sprinting for the tape and dying to finish the f***ing thing.”
“Did you ever hear how Billy Wilder went about his work?” La Frenais asks, grinning. “He'd make the coffee. Then he'd sharpen his pencils. Then he'd read the trades. Then he'd make some calls. Then he'd make some more coffee. Then he'd go outside and wait until he saw three cars pass with Indiana licence plates...”
At this point I'm reminded politely that three script deadlines loom before the weekend, and that, more importantly, La Frenais has a Chelsea game to watch. On the way out, I ask if a TV remake of The Likely Lads will follow the stage version. “No,” Clement says quickly. “You'd be on a hiding to nothing. We don't really want to do any more situation comedy. People always start comparing it with your old work, and it's always unfavourable. So why set yourself up for that? We want to keep jumping out of new boxes.”
Given the use of the word “we”, can it be assumed their working relationship remains in good humour? “Well, we don't argue much,” Clement says. “Everything is debated, whether it's the description of a setting or a piece of dialogue. We've gone our separate ways before [La Frenais adapted Lovejoy, while Clement went into directing] but right now we're on a roll - we've had four films out in the past four years with our names on them, which I don't think anybody else can say, and that's getting us even more work.”
La Frenais offers a more succinct analysis. “Dick and I,” he says, “are Hollywood's most succesful couple.”
The Likely Lads opens at the Gala, Durham (0191-332 4041), on June 11
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James Bolam replied to me when I asked him if he ever met Richard Wattis, when I was writing my book in 2003 - 2005. The mark of the man.
It was his side kick/co-star from the LIKELY LADS who I never received a reply from, and I am still waiting 4 yrs later actually.
Ian Payne, WALSALL,
Oh what happened to you - whatever happened to me I hope revisiting my 70s favourite will not destroy the memory. I once played pool with James Bolam in a Shepherds bush pub, seemed like a decent no frills human.
Robot, Brisbane, Australia
Welcome back to Dick and Ian. I'm a huge fan of The Likely Lads, which to me redrew the boundaries of sitcom. The programme had reality at its core and was thus a superior piece of social comment, as well as half an hour of laughs. It's just a pity that James Bolam was so sensitive about his role.
Stephen, Glasgow,