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MPs have accused West Midlands Police of seeking to undermine freedom of speech by making a “perverse” complaint about a Channel 4 programme that exposed extremism in a British mosque.
Police claimed that the Dispatches programme Undercover Mosque misrepresented the views of Muslim preachers and clerics through misleading editing. The programme featured undercover recordings from speakers alleged to be homophobic, antiSemitic, sexist and condemnatory of nonMuslims.
West Midlands Police rejected calls to take action against the preachers for stirring up racial hatred. Instead, they pursued a complaint against the film-makers, accusing them of undermining community relations.
But Ofcom, the media watchdog, threw out the police complaints. It found that the programme had “accurately represented the material it had gathered and dealt with the subject matter responsibly and in context”.
The programme showed one preacher saying: “By the age of 10, it becomes an obligation on us to force her [young girls] to wear hijab, and if she doesn’t wear hijab, we hit her.”
Other statements included: “Take that homosexual and throw him off the mountain”, and: “Whoever changes his religion from Al Islam to anything else – kill him in the Islamic state”.
Abu Usamah, a preacher at the Green Lane mosque in Birmingham, was secretly filmed saying: “If I were to call homosexuals perverted, dirty, filthy, dogs who should be murdered, that is my freedom of speech isn’t it?”
Ofcom said: “Undercover Mosque was a legitimate investigation, uncovering matters of important public interest. Ofcom found no evidence that the broadcaster had misled the audience or that the programme was likely to encourage or incite criminal activity.”
David Davis, the Shadow Home Secretary, said: “Once they [the police] were clear that no criminal offence had been committed, it was, in my view, a serious misjudgment to continue to pursue the editorial team and risked impeding freedom of speech.
“The Dispatches programme raised matters of wide public interest, touching on security and community relations. The documentary handled inherently sensitive issues in a responsible manner. Having been advised by the Crown Prosecution Service that no criminal charges should be brought, there was no cause for a police complaint to Ofcom. That decision drew the police into scrutinising editorial decisions of a television producer, which is not an appropriate law enforcement function and risks deterring legitimate investigative journalism.”
Kevin Sutcliffe, Channel 4’s deputy head of news and current affairs, who oversees Dispatches, said: “This was a rigorous investigation conducted over nine months and involving great difficulty in its filming, substantial personal risk for the reporter and a great deal of considered judgment in the edit suite.
“All the preachers featured were offered a right to reply and none of these individuals complained to Ofcom about the way they were represented. In these circumstances it seems perverse that Channel 4 should have found itself the subject of a police investigation.”
West Midlands Police said that the programme caused concern for a number of people who made complaints to the force. A spokesman said: “The CPS did raise significant concerns around the production of the programme.”
He added: “It is usual practice . . . to make referrals to regulatory bodies. We acknowledge the findings from Ofcom, which also received and investigated complaints made directly from independent members of the public.”
Ofcom rejected all 364 complaints received from viewers, saying that they appeared to be part of a campaign. A complaint from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia that the programme treated it unfairly was also rejected.
Don Foster, media spokesman for the Liberal Democrats, said: “This whole case raises serious questions about West Midlands Police and the CPS in what appears to be an attempt to censor television, stifle investigative journalism and inhibit open debate.”
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Banning speech, no matter how vile and repugnant, is a far more dangerous and produces far greater injuries to civil liberty than whatever acts of depravity the speech could ever incite.
Freedom of Speech should be protected at all costs, ESPECIALLY when it offends; whether the offense is given towards religion, government, or another group of individuals is irrelevant.
Protection of offensive speech is the PURPOSE of "Freedom of Speech" regardless of who it offends. It ensures one can say what one will to whomever will listen regardless of the content, regardless of who approves, and, most importantly, regardless of who disagrees. The ability of any society to allow offensive speach is what separates enlightened Western pluralistic democracies from third world states ruled by dictators, potentates and religious fanatics.
If you don't like what is said, there is no requirement that you listen. But you may not censor what you do not like simply because you are offended.
Scott, Durham, NC, USA
All this does is reinforce my view that the police have no understanding of the law in this country !
Benzo, Nr Chelmsford,
The officer who ran with this idea to complain to Ofcom should be sacked.
Perverse is the only word to describe it - having seen the programme I was amazed that there was "insufficient evidence" for the Police to act.
It seems that appeasement & dhimmitude are the path chosen by WMP in dealing with the extremists elements on their patch.
It won't do.
zachary, Ibstock, England
How dare the Police complain about a program which clearly showed them failing to protect the community. If there is power to sack their Chief Constable it should already have been used. If no such power exists -Why not?
It is because these muddle-headed incompetents can interfere in every sphere of our life, with impunity, that they sit back making political gestures and forgetting their primary duties as police offices. Dare I be so controversial as to remind them - To protect and serve. Would the West Midlands police chief care to explain publicly how he was doing this by trying to complain about evidence of his own officers failure to act ?
Riley, Kyiv, Ukraine
I wonder how many of you (the public) have actually set foot in a mosque and heard the sermons/talks?
As for not allowing preachers in to the country; I find it both amusing and depressing to see this view coming from a fellow brit who I assume is fully integrated into society.
Though, I could be wrong...
Final words:
To L ward: preaching hatred is part of freedom of speech. To deny that would deny freedom of speech all together. This does not mean however that I am for preaching hatred. On the contrary, I'd rather people use freedom of speech to speak against injustice rather than add to it!
To Gary: Your paranoia is far more depressing than your reason for your paranoia!
Bob, Leicester,
If people make stupid remarks in public they deserve the villification that goes with it.
Muslim Society should pick educated people to lead their religious gatherings rather than any person with a cap on his head and a beard.
The time has come for muslims to question if the peron that leads them has any qualifications
Abid, Shipley, UK
How long before we become an islamic state ?
Gary, Birmingham,
Anyone who voted for LibLabCon is personally responsibly for this kind of madness
You voted for these liberal PC extremists who are hell bent on destroying Britain.
So stop complaining about the results.
James Gaskell, Brighton, England
Remember this the next time ID cards are discussed.
It is an object lesson for those who argue "You have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide".
Give these people absolute power, as an ID card with a detailed database will, and any notion of democracy and freedom of speach will be short lived.
Ian, Pertersfield, UK
Seems to me that the police as well as the government are afraid of upsetting the Muslim preachers too much, they go around things on tip toe in case they offend them. This leaves them free to peach hatred toward us Christian infidels. This is exactly what is about to happen over the new mega mosque, in spite of nearly 500,000 signtures petitioning against it, I bet councils and government will be afraid to say no. Look what has happened already to the councillor who has spoken up against it, he and his family have been threatened.
Stand up and be counted Councillors, Members of Parliament, and media, don't be intimidated.
L Ward, Bridgend, Glam
Why are these preachers even allowed in the country?
What is wrong with this government? The guys who want to take us all out are protected when we the public are left in the wilderness?
Get rid of Gordon Brown and bring back Blair!!
GARY, London,
I also at first suspected channel 4's dispatches programme of disinformation after the police enquiry, i'd thought they were using those imam's speeches out of context. After reading about Ofcoms investigation (also imam's not rebutting their claims), this problem has now got to be acknowledged by our Muslim community. We must stop and remove those imam's from preaching hatred a.s.a.p...even if our government has to deport them. They are giving Islam a very bad name in the UK.
Mohammed, London, UK
REPEAT AFTER ME:
It is NOT a hate crime to expose those who espouse murder and hate.
It is NOT a racism to bring to public light a religion who has many thousands of adherents willing to kill in the name of that religion.
it IS national suicide to pretend there is no problem while importing those who would harm the nation.
It is NOT racism to deport those who preach death and hate against our country. And those would would buy the votes of the hateful with political correctness and servile dhimmitude are as complicit as the haters themselves.
Political correctness must end!
Lori, London,
Do the Prime Minister and the Home Secretary consider that the West Midland Police acted appropriately here? It looks like they acted in a disgracefully biased and partisan way and showed very clearly that they took the side of the discriminators. This police force is not fit for purpose- it needs new leadership.
Doug, Glasgow,
I fully expect the police officers who decided not to investigate the programme's allegations to be severely disciplined if not made to resign.
Stephen, St. Ives, England
The remarks recorded by the Dispatches programme by the Moslem 'preachers', such as killing apostates from Islam, come directly from the so-called 'holy'texts of Islam: the Koran and the Hadith regarded as having revelatory status along with the Koran. This raises to the attention of all concerned: the British Public, the Police, the Government and the Media, the very real, antithetical, degrading, violent and dangerous ideology of Islam at its very core. Islam has no place in Western civilisation: this is, in its central doctrines and texts a political ideology, NOT a theology, and, by calling for violence to assert an islamic state worldwide under Sharia law (Jihad), is essentially seditious. Islam should be proscribed to end its 'charity' status by which it raises funds in mosques to aid terrorism and to prevent its formation, under a political party, specifically designed to elicit Moslem votes and to replace English law with Sharia law in the ever growing 'enclaves.'
A Scriber, london,
Iâm confused, what more evidence do you need than seeing and hearing a person preaching hatred to realise its really happening. I canât and donât wish to preach racial hatred, but would expect to be charged with incitement if I did. It seems once again that laws are only enforced when it meets with the authorities approval. Iâd guess the 364 complainants had vested interested complaining, but feel it not to wise to mention their religious beliefs here in case I offend them, and face prosecution. I watched this programme with interest and am assured these people are in the minority, and the real law-abiding citizens want rid of these fanatics. Regarding the Police I do wonder what the normal bobby thinks of his politically motivated masters, who bring accusations against the messenger whilst the culprits are permitted to continue their hate campaign.
Michael, Sheffield,
Say the obvious!
The UK is Broken!! BIG TIME!!!!
Who is the trash that DESTROYED it????
DavidN, Melbourne,
Sounds like another Chief Constable seeking to enhance his reputation with his political bosses. Statements taken out of context? In what other context can these appalling statements be put?
Ross, Liverpool,
Does it strike anyone else as very odd that the Police took this matter to Ofcom?. One wonders was it the criticism, within the Dispatches program, where it points out that the multi £millions that are building and financing these extremist Mosques is all coming from Saudi Arabia, that caused the Police to step in??
Was there any pressure from the Cabinet Office I wonder? (what a surprise that would be!). There already being a glowing drama over huge backhanders to a Saudi Royal in the B.A E affair. Which is about to be reinvestigated I read.
Keith Baigrie, Dartmouth, Devon,UK
It is obvious that hate crimes have been committed by these preachers, (as defined by the Home Office Website) but they have been saying nothing new. I am surprised the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, (where Wahabism originated) had the cheek to complain.
Maybe people living in the West Midlands should seriously think about going into a Police Station and reporting these preachers as commiting a crime. I would like to think that people would come from a cross section of Britain's multicultural society, including muslims.
Maybe the pressure of a number of people reporting the crime will motivate West Midlands Police to take the correct action.
Matt, Leeds, UK
nothing surprises me when it comes to the West Midlands police - recently I have seen people allowed to commit trespass and criminal damage because they are 'travellers'; men freed without charge despite being caught by police red-handed stealing £600 of diesel from a warehouse on the grounds that they was no DNA evidence; the theft of a £15,000 vehicle from a second warehouse being described as a 'civil matter' and the police refusing point blank to investigate; a man attacked and robbed and left for dead in the very centre of Birmingham City Centre... It is clear that the West Midlands police is just a waste of resources, nothing more.
Marco, Birmingham, uk
so it's ok for them to insult and threaten us in the privacy of their own communities, but if someone does us the service of allowing us know what they are saying about us then that is 'likely to cause divisions'? - the phrase "don't shoot the messenger" comes to mind - What a joke! I'm counting down the days to my emigration from this joke of a "nation".
Marco, Birmingham, uk
I'm not in favour of keeping things quiet... but at the same time, it strikes me as extremely biased to focus on the hatred of just one sect. There are many groups of people in this country that hate blacks, homosexuals, women's rights, etc etc... by focusing on the hatred of extremist preachers, these journalists manage to put those other people out of mind. Eventually, the 'enemy' becomes refined to just one group of their choosing. Equal opportunist exposure, I say... expose EVERY extremist hate-stirring group (and there are many of them, some merely express their views with more reservation) so we can finally recognise society for the riven entity that it's become.
Student, London,
We are watching the decline of intelligent life in Britain. It seems to slip a little lower every day.
Leon Vesty, York, UK
C4 had no case to answer, the West Midlands police should not have even have raised the issue with Ofcom. The West Midlands police should have concentrated on prosecuting those preachers of hate which C4 exposed in their report, but obviously our current politically correct mania prevented them from doing so.
Les, Southport, England.
Beware of these evil people they will continue to try to destroy our way of life. They must be exposed for what they are and the police should be ashamed of themselves.
David Ellis, Tarves, Blighty.
Ofcom ....one of the dumbest out of touch regulatory bodies that exist today...
Jimmy, london, uk
Wow. So if you set up a religous sect and preach violence, hatred and bigotry then no broblem.
If you do TV report exposing a religous sect that preaches violence, hatred and bigotry then West Midlands Police arrest and charge you.
Incredible.
John Goh, Welwyn Garden City, Hertfordshire
What a bunch of fools the police are, we seem to be hearing on an almost daily basis of victims of crime being arrested while the criminals are left un investigated. The only answer these days is to protect your own property and don't involve the police in anything because you are likely to be the one arrested.
D Case, Newquay,
Channel 4's Dispatches one of the best and informative current affairs programmes on TV and it should be a lesson to the West Midlands police that trying to suppress honest, informative and balanced journalism by obliquely accusing the programme of racism only adds to the frustration of those who see big trouble brewing if we pander to Islamic fanaticism and donât take firm action. It would be interesting to know how much money this futile investigation by Ofcom has cost the taxpayer.
Oxford Don, Oxford, UK
"David Davis, Shadow home secretary, said: âOnce they (the police) were clear that no criminal offence had been committed"
Given all the laws we have restricting what the ethnic population are allowed to say about Muslim preachers, I am unable to understand how West Midlands Police can possibly have reached a decision that "no criminal offense had been comitted"
Mike Bibby, St Albans, England -not EU