Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent
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Ben Elton has accused the BBC of unjust political correctness by allowing jokes about vicars but vetoing gags about imams.
Elton, whose children attend a church school, said that the BBC was too “scared” of Islam and of jokes about Islam to let them pass.
Asked about the new law on religious hatred, and whether too much deference was being shown to religious people, he said: “I think it all starts with people nodding whenever anyone says, ‘As a person of faith . . .’
“And I believe that part of it is due to the genuine fear that the authorities and the community have about provoking the radical elements of Islam.
“There’s no doubt about it, the BBC will let vicar gags pass but they would not let imam gags pass.”
He said the BBC might pretend that this hesitancy had something to do with moral sensibilities. “But it isn’t. It’s because they’re scared.”
Elton said the situation was so bad that even everyday sayings were frowned upon: “I wanted to use the phrase ‘Mohammed came to the mountain’ and everybody said, ‘Oh, just don’t! Just don’t! Don’t go there!’
“It was nothing to do with Islam, I was merely referring to the old proverb, ‘If the mountain won’t come to Mohammed, Mohammed must go to the mountain’. And people said, ‘Let’s just not!’ It’s incredible.”
The writer, whose latest novel, Blind Faith, addresses the cult of the individual in postmodern society, continued: “I’m quite certain that the average Muslim does not want everybody going around thinking, ‘We can’t mention you. We’ve just got to pretend you don’t exist because we’re scared that somebody who claims to represent you will threaten to kill us.’” The comedian, who was interviewed by Third Way, a Christian culture magazine, admitted believing in “almost nothing”, even though his children attend a church school.
He said people should be taught the essentials of Christianity, if only for cultural reasons. But he also said that “lack of faith” should be taught in schools. “I think the concept that faith in itself is a good thing should be questioned from day one. There’s a presumption that if you’re a religious leader you are in some way already halfway up to the moral high ground and your opinion has more relevance than anyone else’s.”
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I have to say, Lebia, that anyone of any religion pretending or actually granting any other religion its right is 'scared'. If you believe, as the Christians and the Buddhists and the Satanists or what have you, in one God or one entity of almighty power, then allowing the belief of any other for the sake of social grace is a sin as far as I'm concerned.
However, there is a difference between thinking that someone is wrong and being a terrorist. Half the world should glean the message of this unimportant post and make the world a better place to live.
As far as it goes, I'm all for making jokes about religion of any kind, because the whole thing is a joke anyway. There is a higher power of course: nature. And no, I'm not a hippie. Natural rules are set, and those rules dictate us: No matter which 'god' you subscribe to, be it Allah, God or Quetzalcoatl, he will not save you if you get shot point blank in the eye no matter how good a little boy or girl you've been.
JM, Manchester,
Leiba Bronstein, Cologne, Germany says that "Islam is the religion of peace" I have often heard this quote yet since Islams existence there has always been war and violence in the name of Islam. For almost 700 years from around 641 AD muslims raged war and destruction on non Islamic nations from modern day Iraq through north Africa to Southern Spain.
Even in the 21st Century Muslims are at war amongst each other - death and destruction on each other and the killing of innocent people is truly sickening
Islam to me is nothing but a religion of fear and intolerant to criticisms. Put simply Islam than a dangerous brainwashing cult.
We must fight to preserve freedom of speech and expression.
and If msulims can't tolerrate that in Weestern society then go live in an Islamic country
Trevor Bailey, Bradford, England
I'm a Christian, and I'm quite glad that people can make jokes about vicars, faith and Christianity. I'd much rather that than the ridiculous 'challenge nothing' attitude that prevails about some other things. The principle of free speech is a good one.
Sharon, Belfast,
Anyone of a religious conviction that cannot have a sense of humour about that religion or is not able to endure criticism of that religion obviously has deep seated insecurity about their beliefs. It is called projection.
Eamon, Sydney, Australia
I think it's fair to say most faiths are guilty of a sense of humour failure, from the Catholic Church to Judaism to Islam. If only people would accept that by living in a secular, democratic society which prides itself on providing freedom of speech to its people, ANY faith is a fair target for satire and lampoon (and the more po-faced and indignant your stance on that fact, the more ripe a target you are). Provided it does not cross over into religious hatred and bigotry (or GENUINE offence has been caused), put up or shut up - we're all entitled to express our opinions, and we should all be accepting of the fact that others our entitled to express their opinions about us.
Thom James, Auckland, NZ
"Do not judge Islam by the actions of a number of inviduals or groups." Bukit Chandan, Malaysia, Malaysia
Well
1. Do not judge Islam by the deeds of prophet Muhammad
2. Do not judge Islam by the contents of Quran
3. Do not judge Islam by the Sharia law
4. Do not judge Islam by the preaches of Imams
5. Do not judge Islam by the actions of Moslems who claims to follow pp 1.-4.
6. Do not judge Islam by what is come about in the Islamic countries
7. Do not judge Islam by what moslem immigrants are commitng in your country.
Be fair to minorities.
Just remeber - what you see in the news is not the REAL Islam. The REAL Islam is what moslems tell you in the talk-show. Relax and understand - Islam is the religion of peace. Otherwise you will be afraid to use tomorrow tube or coach to go to work.
Leiba Bronstein, Cologne, Germany
Isn't the entire country too afraid of Islam? I remember when I was young and muslims were just quiet and contributive members of society. It wasn't that long ago either. Now their the spawn of Satan. It's all ridiculous hype. I feel sorry for decent Muslims in Britain, where is their voice? I'm certain that they must feel that their religion is just being used.
judy, Liverpool, England
The trouble is, coming from Ben Elton, this is all a bit rich. He was one the 'left-leaning' (i.e far left) comedians of the 1980's who pioneered PC comedy as an alternative to the likes of Bernard Manning etc who had the courage to make jokes about anything and anybody. Bernard and co were relegated to the clubs and it became difficult to make jokes about anything un-PC for fear of being called racist/ intolerant - thanks to Ben Elton and co. Now that he's got a big house and is worried about his children's futures - suddenly he wants the BBC to be less PC! He's right, but coming from him just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.....
Paul Williams, Egham, UK
I'm for equal opportunity lampooning. Of course, this is theoretical. I'm a university professor and I am even scared of watching what I say about Islam in front of my students, even if it's a class in which I critique other religions from an intellectual stance. It's a situation that has really gotten out of hand thanks to radical Islamofascists. It's up to moderate Muslims to speak out against these people. If not, they're complicit. Encountering offense is part of living in a free world. Radical Islam wishes to stanch the voices of liberal democracy. Faith without fear!
Nia , New York, NY
We all know that if you tell jokes about Jews then that is Anti- Semitism; if you tell jokes about Muslims then that is Islamophobia; but if you tell jokes about Christians then that is free speech.
kerry livermore, London, England
A refreshing article.
We inherit morality and ethics from the best of the current principal religions and that is a good thing.
As to whether we need a god as well, that is a personal thing - I realised when I was about fourteen years old that I knew there are no gods.
That was 49 years ago.
Ian, Solihull, UK
Paul Berman takes an entire article ("Who's afraid of Tariq Ramadan?") to make the same point: the political left is scared senseless of Islam and jihadists. Hardly a group to entrust a country to.
Marshall Onellion, Stoughton, USA/WI
How come you guys never make any anti-Hinduism or anti-Judaism jokes. Why do you have to pick on Islam, which has a negative view among the publics.
Christianity is an exception because it is religion of majority in UK, such as Hinduism is an exception in India or Islam is an exception in Turkey. It is okay to make jokes about your culture or religion.
People get offended when when society pick on minority's culture or religion.
tarikur, Boston, USA
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