Grayson Perry
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On a long bus journey in Mexico I got chatting to a passenger. When I told him I was from England he exclaimed: “Ah the Beatles! Liverpool!” It was a reminder that Liverpool truly has a global artistic reputation.
On hearing that Tate Liverpool is staging an exhibition to coincide with the city’s 800th anniversary called Centre of the Creative Universe: Liverpool and the Avant-Garde I was extremely tempted to fall into the lazy habits of the metropolitan chattering classes and give the city a good verbal kicking. After all, here is a place usually portrayed as having an overdeveloped sense of entitlement because it gave the world the Beatles and its teams are quite good at football.
The title of the show is an ironic misquote of the American poet Allen Ginsburg, who enjoyed the vibrancy of the city on a visit in 1965. What he did say was that Liverpool “is at this present moment the centre of consciousness of the human universe. Wow, wouldn’t it be great if they built a cathedral in the shape of a spaceship because Jesus was an astronaut?” Ginsberg stayed with the poet and painter Adrian Henri, who came to prominence alongside his fellow Mersey poets Roger McGough and Brian Patten, and the painters Maurice Cockrill and John Baum. Henri lived in the city’s answer to the Left Bank, Liverpool 8, an area of decaying Georgian buildings that he describes as being full of “families of happy Jamaicans, sullen out-of-work Irishmen, poets, queers, thieves, painters, university students, lovers . . .”
By 1967 the myth of Liverpool as a font of creativity welling up out of urban deprivation was well established. The Telegraph magazine celebrated “the Sound of Liverpool 8, its dialect, poetry, music art and happenings”, accompanied by Don McCullin’s gritty photos of kids playing in rundown streets.
It is the great photographs in the book accompanying the Tate show that stand out for me. They chronicle the changing perceptions of Liverpool over the past half century, from Edward Chambre-Hardman’s Where great ships are built , which shows the vast hulk of an aircraft carrier looming over a housing estate (where the men who built it probably lived) to Martin Parr’s series The Last Resort, whose style and viewpoint reflect the combination of fascination and revulsion often directed at the garish indulgences of the working class.
Liverpool’s hard-left council set itself up in opposition to the Conservative Government and suffered more than most during the economic downturns of the Seventies and Eighties, and perhaps because of this the people developed a reputation for being chippy. A thin theatrical self-confidence often evolves as a defence mechanism. Demanding respect is a trope, usually counterproductive, developed by communities who feel powerless. Jeff Nuttall, the head of fine art at Liverpool College of Art during its Sixties golden era, said: “There was nothing toffee-nosed about Liverpool, Liverpool was a ‘real’ place.” Inverted snobbery can be another manifestation.
Now Liverpool is entering a new renaissance. Aspirations to wood-floored loft lifestyles have even filtered through to my favourite Liverpudlians, the Royle family, who in their Christmas special were very proud that their living room had been “laminated”.
The city now has a biennale and will be the European Capital of Culture in 2008. City fathers hope a destination rebranded through the arts will charm visitors into investing business capital or choosing Liverpool for a weekend city break. But this is not going to be the natural flowering of the Sixties, when artists grew like weeds out of the bomb sites and abandoned dockyards. It is a rebirth involving much political intervention, about as natural as a civic flower bed spelling out “Welcome to Liverpool” in Day-Glo petunias.
A habit of the mainstream that leaves me feeling queasy is its exploitation of nostalgia for subcultural boom times. With howling beatniks or angry punks now safely in the past, the powers-that-be hope to cash in on creative rebellions that were at best ignored and at worst seen as illegal. City hall wants to capitalise on the image of Liverpool as a thriving bohemian destination for tourists and investment, a place of authentic, ever so slightly daring, cultural thrill rides. But as they do this, they develop away the very resources that give rise to these phenomena, that is rundown property where young artists can make noise, mess and little money.
Liverpool wants to revisit its glory days, but they filled in the Cavern Club and used the ground for a car park. Matthew Street, a creative hotbed in the 1980s, faded into fake Irish pubs and pedestrianisation. It may be romantic to think that interesting art communities have to be unofficial, but I fear that City Hall is hoping for the Bilbao effect. It may end up with a Pizza Express.
Bill Drummond in his engaging essay, also in the accompanying book, thinks that spontaneous subcultures may be gobbled up by the mainstream at such a rate now that the underground exists only in “paedophile chatrooms, white supremacist websites and Islamic fundamentalist bookshops”. Now there’s an idea for a novel angle on attracting tourism.
Centre of the Creative Universe: Liverpool and the Avant-Garde is at Tate Liverpool (0151-702 7400; tate.org.uk/liverpool), until September 9

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Grayson has a point though. The city is based on hybrid culture and is now becoming a scary urban landscape
Liverpool based ARtist, Liverpool,
I recently went to see the "centre of the creative universe exhibition, and as a Scouser (now living in London), I thoroughly enjoyed it- Liverpool is right to be proud of it's past, and not just the Beatles. However I do agree with Grayson Perry, I feel that the life of the city is being sucked out with franchise pubs and restaurants, corporate apartment blocks and the closure of subcultural havens The Palace, Quiggins and one of the few bits of green in the city, Chevasse Park. At this rate, the only thing that the Capital Of Culture status will give us, in place of my beloved city, is something bland and sterile that could be anywhere.
Natalie, London,
Yawn. Another example of lazy, poorly researched, cliched writing. Is there anything in Grayson Perry's piece on Liverpool I haven't heard from cabbies in old London town whenever they hear my accent? I don't think so. As for the reference to our "quite good" football teams... Why not join the fans of those other mediocre football clubs with not a European Cup between them in singing that old chestnut "Sign on, Sign on..." We've heard it all before and we don't care. "Overdeveloped sense of entitlement"? Try aware of our past and looking forward to our future.
Elizabeth Collins, Merseyside,
Just the tone of this article is enough to dissuade anyone from treating it as a well balanced article. What about the Matthew Street Festival which is Europe's largest free music festival? What about the View2 Gallery on Matthew Street, where cutting edge art is alive and well? As for fake Irish pubs, there is only one Irish pub on Matthew Street, Flannegans Apple and it is not fake. The Guiness there is as good as you'll get outside of Ireland and the bands that perform there (Cream Othe Barley, for example) are first class. Incidentally, this fake Irish pub is full of Irish-folk every hour of the day. As for modern culture, some of the best artists can be found at the city's fine art and performing arts schools. Musically, there are just as many new bands around as thereever were. The writer's lack of support for Liverpool is completely underwhelming and negative. As a Scot, I am beginning to find these lacksadaisical southern put-downs to be tiresome. Perhaps it is just that the article reuired a writer with his finger on the pulse, rather than just a pulse?
weedenbroon, Prenton, Great Britain
Grayson Perry
Please read this in the bathroom when your concentration is sharp. If the Mexican talk of Liverpool who are you to comment on this. Do you want the Mexican say oh it if Elvis pool
OK, Liverpool gave us the Beatles, but is it really a creative hotbed?..in Mexico I got chatting to a passenger. When I told him I was from England he exclaimed: Ah the Beatles! Liverpool!
Firozali A.Mula MBA PhD, Dar-Es-Salaam, Tanzania
In response to Ann, well maybe not, but we are who we are. Today we have good bits and bad bits.
In response to Grayson Perry [I think I'll start using my surname as my first and vice versa] we're not trying to be anything we are not. We are trying to make a living, keep the wolves from the door and enjoy what we can. There is a little bit more wealth here now although it is not that we are craving more, but surely our kids and their kids don't have to face the poverty of the past. Whether this means we lose our 'edge' I don't know. There is a heritage to defend and this is not overbearing sentimentalism.
When you have read this article why don't you come up and see us sometime?
Southern Alan, Liverpool - where else?,
Re Grayson Perry & The Royle family.
Have they been transported from a Manchester family to Liverpool?
E.Dunn, Widnes,
Attention: Grayson Perry:
Jeff Nuttall was not head of fine art at Liverpool College of Art during its Sixties Golden Era, but from 1981 to 1984 - see http://www.jeff-nuttall.co.uk/html/timeline.html.
Robert Bank, COLNE, Lancashire, UK
Liverpool, the sixties I loved it. I was 14 when I first walked out of Lime Street Station and had the two Lions of St. Georges Hall staring at me, this little girl coming from the south. The Liver buildings can only be described as something similiar to the ones of Gotham City. My eyes bulged in every direction. My grand-parents warned me to stay away from Scotty Road and other seedy areas. I started out life as a clerk for a (stinking)cattle food company then, during our lunch time I discovered the Cavern Club luchtime sessions in Mathew Street, holding our noses while we passed the rotten fruit and vegetables of the streets wholesalers. The number of groups and talent there, at that time, is now history but, surely this can be no coincidence. I think the hope, the strife, the will to overcome the poverty was an important ingredient in those days and I don't think people with "laminated" living rooms will have the "je ne sais quoi" of those crazy, fabulous Mersey Beat days.
Ann Johnson, Brussels, Belgium
Er... I'm not sure that the Royle family are Liverpudlians! Jim Royle clearly is, but I can't think of a single other member of that comedic family that has a Scouse accent.
On the subject of gentrification of previously "edgy" areas of cities, Liverpool's Matthew Street is not the only area to have suffered such a sad fate. Over the last 15 years or so London's Soho also appears to have gone the same way, and I'm sure there are many more examples throughout the country. Unfortunately, the forces of rampant commercialism/consumersim in the last couple of decades have killed off any notions of a creative "subculture" or "underground".
G L S, Liverpool,