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CLARE: I had five years of being the only daughter, then Chris came along and my bubble burst. Mum told me I used to say: “We don’t want her. Can you send her back?” Chris was born a rebel; my mother always said she took day for night, and night for day. Literally. She’d sleep all day and at night be awake, she was just… different. Chris drove my mother demented. I remember her saying, “I’m ready to throw her out of the window,” and my dad replying: “Don’t be so stupid, Sylvia.”
We grew up in World’s End, Chelsea. Dad was a chef and would be away from home all hours. He wasn’t there enough really, because he worked so much. It was a terrible life, and he always used to say to Clare and me: “I don’t care what you girls do, so long as you don’t go into the catering business.”
Both my parents were born in England, but my father’s family was Italian, and at the age of seven he’d been sent to Italy and left there with his grandmother for seven years. He came back just before the second world war with an Italian passport — and was promptly interned. He was sent to the Isle of Wight, where he met my mother’s brother, which is how he met my mother.
Italian women tend to dominate and my mum certainly ruled our house. My mother was the one who always had the say over whether we could go out and how long we could stay out. For instance, I was a serious mod, and all my friends were going down to Clacton one weekend, but because I was the youngest in that group I had to ask my mum if I could go. She said: “Go and ask your dad.” I never thought I’d get permission, but he said: “Yes, okay.” I told Mum: “Dad said I could go.” “No, you can’t,” she said. “Don’t be stupid.”
Chris and I both went to the Servite school in Fulham Road. It was a Roman Catholic school, not fee-paying, of course, but the best in the area. I had quite a hard time, because it was straight after the war and, being of Italian extraction, I wasn’t welcome at Christmas or birthday parties for quite a few years. “She can’t come — the Italian one,” the parents would say. Even the nuns were nasty to me. But the nuns loved Chris when she came along.
She was very good academically, very bright, very gobby too — always had an answer, but made you laugh. I got through okay, I was a plodder, but she was really gifted.
Five years is a big gap — and we used to share a bedroom — in fact, I shared a room with her until I was 20. One half of the wallpaper was rock’n’roll, and the other side was Noddy. Chris was an absolute Noddy freak. She had a Noddy dressing gown, Noddy pyjamas, Noddy slippers with little bells on, plates, saucers and Noddy cups. Everything was bloody Noddy.
When I was 19 Chris would take my clothes. I could go into her wardrobe at any time and guarantee to find something of mine there. But the thing that used to upset me most was when my clothes were cut up, because she would try to make something for herself out of them, and just destroy everything. We used to fight a lot, and sometimes it would be fist fights. But on occasions we got on well. We both absolutely adored music, and I’d come home and teach her to dance: Mud Jive, Mickey’s Monkey, all the mod dances.
When Chris got to 15 she dropped a bombshell: she’d had enough of education and wanted to travel. And the next moment she had left school and gone. She went all around Europe and Africa. She’d come back to England and do temp jobs to earn some money, and then be off again — and take half my make-up with her when she went. But I did miss her. I was always worried about her and wondered what she was getting up to. She had an English boyfriend, and they used to travel together, and when they split she moved in with this great Dutch guy, and settled for a while in Amsterdam, although that didn’t work out in the end. But she’s got a wonderful partner now, and she and I are good friends. Great friends.
I had a pulmonary embolism a few years back, and as soon as she found out she was round at the hospital, and did not leave my side from dawn to dusk. I was very touched. I’m so pleased that I’ve got a sister now. You can trust family, can’t you? They back you up, and when push comes to shove they’re always there for you.
CHRISSIE: I hated my sister and she hated me. Obviously, it was very hard for her, because Mum and Dad were both working, so she had to look after me and was stuck with this sister who was five years younger, and that’s a huge difference with girls at that age. But I hung around with girls who had older sisters, and their sisters seemed much kinder to them. She never really wanted me around; when her friends got together, I could tell she was really pigged off that I had to come too. But, having said that, if there was any trouble, I knew she would defend me to the hilt, because I was always getting into scrapes, and she’d even fight for me. But after that we’d go back to hating each other.
Secretly, though, I admired her. She looked good, she was very glamorous. When she first got into make-up I wanted her make-up, down to her lilac eye shadow. I wanted everything that was hers, especially her clothes, and she wouldn’t give me anything, literally, even when things were too small for her. She was horrible to me. So she made her own cross to bear by treating me that way. I learnt very quickly how to antagonise her and get my revenge.
I used to steal her clothes — in my little mind I imagined that I could transform them completely by remaking them, and that she’d never recognise them, and they’d be mine for ever. Obviously that would turn out to be a disaster, and I used to bury them under this loose floorboard in our bedroom and just watch her scream and yell. “Where’s my jumper?” she would shout about some trendy thing she’d got at a boutique in the King’s Road. I started going to pubs when I was very young, because you could dance there. That was what people did in the ’60s. She would order me out of the pub, because she didn’t want her younger sister there, but of course I wouldn’t go, and then I’d end up cadging a drink off one of her boyfriends, just to irritate her. She’d fly into an absolute rage and say to him: “Why are you buying her a drink? She’ll just stay longer now.”
Sharing a bedroom was murder. I suppose she’s told you about the meeting of the wallpapers. She had rock’n’roll on her side, and I had Noddy. We shared a double bed in those days — you did when you were working class. But God forbid you rolled over into “her” territory. Clare always had this dividing line, and you’d suddenly get an elbow in the back: “You’re over the line.” Also, Clare had her own cup. God forbid you used Clare’s cup. I couldn’t care what cup I used. “I was sitting in that chair first.” It was all stuff like that. We’re so opposite, it rubbed my character up the wrong way. It was very niggly. That was our relationship, that’s what it was like.
I was very useful when she wanted to practise rock’n’roll, however — dancing with the chair got boring — so when I got in from school, it was: “Come here, I want to show you something.” We both loved dancing. We had a record player downstairs — although of course that was always “hers”. And I couldn’t afford records anyway, until I had a Saturday job in a record shop.
I remember one night when Clare was having a party. Mum and Dad were going out and they said she couldn’t have a party unless I could come. I remember it was a summer’s night, and I was sitting on the windowsill, watching them all dancing — this mod dancing — and snogging, and just yearning to be part of it. Clare just seemed to be really sophisticated and cool to me at that time. However, once I turned 15 I wasn’t under her control any more, and I took off, left the country. I didn’t miss her. You’re very selfish when you’re young, aren’t you? I was away for my 21st birthday party, and when I look back I realise my family must have really missed me, but it didn’t enter my head that they might. I didn’t think about Clare at all. But whether I loved her or hated her, there was a sense that Clare was always there. Family means a lot to me too now, but it meant a lot to Clare at a very young age.
When I came back to England, I joined her working in the model agency she’d just set up, and then I was old enough to feel like a contemporary — a 21-year-old can hang around with a 26-year-old, no problem. Clare started to share her feelings, and suddenly she wasn’t this big sister, where everything was perfect in her life. I’d always been the wild one, and the dramas were around me, but I saw she had her own dramas and problems, and I was old enough now to relate to them, and to be able to talk about them, and we became friends.
I can’t bear to see Clare low, or, as women do, start doubting something about herself. After the break-up with one boyfriend, I heard she was a bit down, and I invited her out to Spain when I was living there, to come and stay with me. That was something different for Clare, because she doesn’t really like change, and doesn’t like to travel. But she was great. For once she didn’t knock my world, or judge me, and she had a good time. It was a real turning point in our relationship, a time when I could offer something back to her.
Things have completely changed. We’re women in our own rights. Of course we have different perspectives, but it’s a great relationship now, and has been for quite a while. I don’t think Clare has really ever been able to work me out. But what I love about her is that she never stops trying.
Interviews: Danny Danziger.
Portrait by Lydia Goldblatt
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