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CREDIT card customers who pay off their balance each month are as much risk from being cut off by their lender as those that have lost control of their spiralling debts..
Credit checking agencies say banks are beginning to weed out customers with faultless borrowing histories because they can make little profit on them.
It comes as credit card company Egg was accused of withdrawing cards from some of its most responsible customers as part of a cull of those said to have a "higher than acceptable risk profile".
The lender, part of US investment bank Citigroup, wrote to 161,000 customers - 7% of its total base - last week to warn them their cards would be withdrawn in 35 days. They can still repay balances over time.
Many Egg customers who caught up in the clamp down claim they are "risk free" customers who have never breached their credit limit and who pay off their balance each month. Gillian Cox, an Egg customer from Farnham, Surrey, said she was "absolutely furious" to learn that her credit card had been cancelled in what she described as an "unbelievable arbitrary action".
She said she her husband were retired with no mortgage and no debts and "always paid the balance off in full each month". Trevor Smith, from Nottingham, who also pays of his balance each month has also had his card cancelled. "It's disgusting that they are making out its just the bad ones who are being dropped," Smith said. "Fair enough if that's what they want to do, but don't send a really upsetting letter that makes it sound like we have a bad credit history all of a sudden. Good riddance... if that's how they treat people."
One industry insider said that as businesses credit card providers had a right to ditch customers who do not generate income. "In the last two years more and more customers have been paying off their credit card debt and that means less interest charges and other fees for the provider," the source said. "Maintaining a customers account costs money - it's hardly surprising that they want to lose some of those people."
MBNA, the credit card giant, recently introduced annual charges for those customers who very rarely use their accounts.
Egg denied it was targeting unprofitable customers, saying the cull spun from a review instigated by Citi when it bought the internet bank from the Prudential last May.
It said customers were chosen if their credit profile had deteriorated since they had joined Egg, and was mainly based on their relationship with Egg rather than taking into account if they had fallen behind with payments to other lenders or utilities.
"This is not a decision we have taken lightly," said Egg spokeswoman, Rachel Roe. "We have looked carefully at it so that we wouldn't put innocents onto a black list."
However, credit checker Experian said better customers may be less welcome in future as banks chase profitable business to offset losses from delinquent borrowers with rising bad debts.
"Put yourself in their shoes. You spend very little and pay it off every month. You are not an ideal customer for them," said Peter Brooker, a spokesman for the company.
Lenders make some money from retailers who pay per transaction charged to a credit card, but most of the profit comes from hefty interest fees.
Changes in the Banking Code next month will put the onus on lenders to monitor customers they think could be getting into financial difficulty.
Credit card firms have already been trimming customers' borrowings. Barclaycard clamped down on spending limits for 500,000 of its 9.6m customers in 2006, but says it has no plans to follow Egg by withdrawing cards.
Royal Bank of Scotland, which has 11m credit cards in use under brands including Natwest, Mint and Tesco Personal Finance, said: "The credit card is there for people to use as they want. We don't want customers that aren't managing their credit card."
Credit card providers have become more discerning about who they accept as new customers in recent years. Two years ago only about one in three of applicants for new cards were declined. That figure has since risen to nearly 50%. Barclaycard now turns down more applicants than it accepts.
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I've been with Egg for 10 years now and my account is set to pay the full balance each month, so they make nothing from me. I haven't received a letter but I do have savings with them.
Prudence , Bath,
I blame this on the £12 cap on penalty fees. Let this serve as a warning to everyone campaigning to scrap bank charges. Once you have your way, you can expect banks to withdraw bank accounts from poorer customers, and to charge monthly fees to those with no debts. UK banking customers actually had a good deal compared to other countries, but it is being ruined by misguided consumer campaigns.
Jonathan, Didcot, Oxfordshire
I have two cards with Egg, had them for several years, lots of transactions, cleared every month, I earn near to the maximum cashback of £ 200 each year, and have paid hardly any interest, ever. There is another factor - how often you log on to the Egg website. I am CONVINCED that this is a major factor in this decision. A customer has little potential for successful cross selling of other products if he or she isn't regularly exposed to them on the website. So I believe Egg has culled those who don't use the website enough, or at all.
They introduced a novel feature called Egg Money Manager two or three years ago, which if used would mean a customer acesses the site very frequently. I would be amazed if any customer using this service has had the goodbye letter. Egg is after all an internet bank.
Andy, Bath,
I too have had my card withdrawn, when I have never defaulted on a payment, had in fact got a £0 balance and was recently approved for a loan to cover home improvements because of my excellent credit rating. It's very wierd.
Liz, London
Liz , London,
Adrian just doesn't seem to believe that Egg is getting rid of non-risky customers - and in a way, I don't blame him! It does seem ridiculous.
I have zero debts, had only one credit card (my Egg card), paid off in full every month, and at least a couple of times a year spent a couple of grand on it (usually holiday, or a computer). Am on the electoral register, have no credit searches on my record (either Equifax or Experian), have a rating of 997 out of 1000 with Equifax. I've got ZERO defaults or arrears on ANYTHING, and haven't had since my student days 8 years ago. I have a city salary over 150k, and save well over 50k a year.
I really don't mind Egg deciding I'm not making me any money - but I do resent them lumping me in the 'credit risk' category. Just a letter saying we're closing the account because we don't make enough money from you is fine...
Looking forward to First Direct with there great 24 hour UK based call centres! No useless voice recognition systems...
Marcos, London,
Interesting, I've been an Egg card holder for years but rarely (like years between uses) ever use it. They didn't cancel mine, I wonder what criteria they are applying ?
Chris, Bristol,
I too have been with Egg for almost 10 years and was horrified to receive a termination notice without any nicities claiming that termination was due to my credit history when in fact i have never missed a payment and pay off in full. They are hiding behind this guise and an investigation should be conducted into the duty of care this bank owes its customers! I would urge others to protest before they too get the chop!
anna , london, uk
Banks are not savvy with customers because they are retail.
They do not understand the value of interaction from the prospect or client...why??... because they wait for someone to approach them.
Bottom line... typically yound untested managers make usually bad decisions...and they either are fired and then look for a real job.
gg, Scottsdale, USA, AZ
Citigroup have last month reported a $9.8 billion sub prime loss (bbc) and slashed 1000 jobs in London, and now are obviously cutting those customers who don't make them 'enough' profit in an attempt to salvage the position.
I have been an Egg customer for 9 years, no adverse credit anywhere, have held a variety of different loan and insurance products, although I have only used the card in the past few years to take advantage of the 0% balance transfer deals then repaid the balance in full. By all means cancel the card if I am no longer a profitable customer, it is the right of a business to choose its customers, but please don't hide behind the pretence that I am a credit risk, I just don't meet your portfolio requirements. At least be honest about it. I suggest we shout to make ourselves heard and boycott all Citigroup products, not just Egg. What's next?
Ruth, Milton Keynes,
By revoking the credit line of customers that have assets with Citi, the bank has taken away a potential recourse / offset in the event that those same customer's withdrawels of assets on deposit become restricted or otherwise inhibited by the bank.
Greg, Denver, Colorado
For those people who are prudent and pay the balance of their accounts off each month, and have been warned they may have their cards withdrawn,I suggest they apply for a new card through the Supermarket they purchase their weekly shopping.Supermarkets are falling over themselves to get your business. They no the terrible consequences to their business if they withdrew credit cards from the very customers they rely on for their business to succeed
S.L.Green, Colchester, UK
High risk customer!??! I have only £2300 on two cards that I pay on time every month (just over the minimum amount) and a salary of £40k+ and I get this letter saying that my cards are going to be cancelled!??! I checked my credit rating and there is nothing wrong ! If anything I thought I would be a good customer as they make money out of me! Guess I'll pay both cards off at the end of the month and move my savings elsewhere..
mark, Bradford, UK
It's all UK politician's fault. Credit card business might disappear in UK in the future for two reasons:
1. Those idiot politicians made bankruptcy easy. Card companies incur huge losses as more people filed for bankruptcy. Burden of managing debts are shifted to lenders, rather than borrowers. What a joke?
2. Interchange fees charged to merchants were lowered by the government. Card companies no longer getting paid for the services they provided to the consumers and merchants.
I am just surprised it took so long before card companies finally decided to cut the loss
Frank, Tallahassee, FL
Like many others whose card is to be cancelled by Egg despite being an excellent 'risk', I am angry that they pretend this has nothing to do with profits, which it obviously has. We also used Egg for insurance and other financial services. No more. May they sink to where they deserve. Pity the poor staff. And complain to them and the FSA.
Dennis Walder, London,
If you have access to internet banking it is easy to move
Money around if your bank fails to provide you with the best rates and service
It is the customers who provide the banks with funds to invest and they waste millions each
Year in writing off bad debt bye EGG
GERARDFORRY, glasgow, scotland
Egg have written to me as well withdrawing their card yet I have never missed a payment with Egg and have worked within my credit limit. At the moment I owe them £1240 and have a debit of £840 being paid to them monthly. Equifax and Experian rate me as a very good/excellent credit risk. I have not missed a credit card payment in years with any lender. I also have no decrees,ccj's, defaults in fact I have an impeccable credit record.
Here is the strange bit though. A friend of mine who through lack of work is almost out of cash was sent a new card this morning.
It is nothing to do with risk. It is simply who they can make money out of.
Hope it comes back to haunt them.
Martin Morris, Glasgow, Scotland
Hopefully this will signal the end of those appaling "only a signature required" unsolicited cerdit card applications through the post - which I have thought for a while should be illegal.
Also if as seems to be claimed in other postings EGG/Citibank are penalising those "prudent" credit card users who pay their account soff every month - have they considered that these are likely some of the corporate employees using (at the moment) the corporate Citibank Cards....
Mark, UK, UK
I am an egg customer with a zero balance and 3 savings accounts with egg.
I have double my credit limit in savings with egg, have no mortgage, no debts and earn a higher than average income. I got the letter canceling my egg card and I have asked for the information egg have on me under the data protection act. I suggest other people do the same.
My savings will be withdrawn on Monday.
Gary, Colchester,
Credit card companies are not charities, they are in business to make a profit for their shareholders, just like any other business. If you pay off the full balance each month there is no interest charge, so where is the profit for the company.
Also, if you pay off the full balance each month, what's the point in having a credit card? You could just pay for everything as you go by using a debit card. Using a debit card would also avoid the 2% charge which many companies charge their customers for paying them with a credit card, for online purchases for instance, because there is usually no charge for paying with a debit card.
One of the greatest things that could happen for the financial well-being of people generally, and for the health of the economy as a whole, would be for everybody to stop using credit cards altogether. This country is awash in a sea of debt, and it's getting worse.
Ed Dirben, London,
Well,well. First Marks & Spencer & Tesco decide not to accept cheques in payment for goods; now credit card companies may refuse cards to people who are creditworthy preferring those who borrow and cannot pay them back so they are charged usurious rates of interest.Talk about a rock and a hard place!
Can we still buy things for cash?
Peter Hayes, macclesfield, cheshire
The profit for the company is in building a relationship with customers who in the main have about 8 ( on average) financial products, many of these will be with different organisations so providing a credit facility is one way of engaging customers in having more profitable holdings with a particular financial institution. Even if a customer pays off the balance each month the bank gets an average of 1% of the value of every transaction that the non profitable customers charges to the credit card so hardly a small amount of cash for all of these customers who are being branded as non credit worthy. Why else would they offer cashback up to a maximum of £200 on these cards, I wonder how they are going to pay this back to customers who have earned it and are now being terminated. This 'bank' has no interest in developing relationships with customers and does not deserve the two million credit customers it has. Take your savings, mortgage and credit elsewhere to someone who cares ...NOW
Dave P, Manchester, UK
Q: "Also, if you pay off the full balance each month, what's the point in having a credit card?"
A: Payment protection, interest free period, and other bonuses like airmiles.
Charlotte, Nottingham,
What's next....Supermarkets banning shoppers because they don't spend enough per week?. Public houses refusing to serve people who aren't planning to spend all night in their establishment?.. or.. banning people from buying the Sunday Times because they never get the chance to finish it before the next Sunday?
Dion, Corby, Northamptonshire
Well, Ed, if you think about it you might realise that up to 30 days' free credit is worth taking advantage of. I always pay off my credit card at the end of the month - and no, of course I don''t use it when there 's an extra charge (unless the extra protection of using a credit card for a large purchase online warrants this).
I have no problem with Egg only wanting to deal with profitable (i.e. debt-ridden) customers - it's the attempt to spin this as getting rid of high-risk customers which is dishonest, and it will backfire on them. I don't expect my card provider to withdraw my card, as they will immediately lose all the other business, current and future, I do with them.
Anthony Walker, Oxford, UK
Egg was a marginal provider which was taken over by Citigroup. Citigroup is a failing bank with the biggest losses in the history of banking - (income in 2007 $3.62 billion, losses in sub-prime $30 billion revealed so far with probably countless billions concealed). The recall of a few credit cards is a transparent diversion to take the minds of shareholders off the cataclysmic insolvency which this bank will eventually reveal. Fiddling while Rome burns.The crash of Citigroup will make Northern Rock look small-time, small-change provincial. If you only have credit card with this inept bank, thank your lucky stars. Some people have shares - mainly the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority and Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal of Saudi Arabia - when they pull the plug the queues will start forming. Your credit card is infinitely small beer. The directors of Citigroup are staring into an abyss the like of which hasn't been seen since the Great Depression. Their action today predicates a run.
eric campbell, harrogate, uk
Just want to say, I have had both my Egg Cards cancelled. Have never missed a payment & according to Experian I have an excellent credit rating with a score of 999 out of 1000 which means I am very low risk.
Jo Richardson, Wandsworth, LONDON