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A council has been accused of robbing the poor to give to the rich by digging up more than 30 ornate Victorian-style street lamps to move them to more upmarket areas.
All but two of the cast-iron lampposts have illuminated the streets of St Andrews, a suburb of Bristol, since the 1920s but were removed without warning this week.
They have been replaced with modern lights which, residents say, look out of place and have a harsher glare. Their old lampposts are likely to end up in Clifton, a smart conservation area of tree-lined streets and Georgian villas.
Bristol City Council says the lampposts had to be replaced because they were not bright enough to deter street crime and thefts. It confirmed that some were being moved to conservation areas and admitted that workmen began removing the lampposts before residents were notified.
David Cemlyn, a local historian,said: “We woke up one morning and all the Victorian lampposts that were up and down the street had been removed. It is as though it's nothing to come along and take out 100-year-old lampposts and give them to another area. It's absolutely crazy.”
He added: “And we don't mind? Of course we mind. I'll chain myself to them if necessary.”
Those considered to be in good working order will go to one of 33 conservation areas in the city, one of the largest of which is Clifton, home to the suspension bridge.
In a statement, the city council said: “The 30 or so cast-iron columns that have been recently replaced in St Andrews were outdated and gave off limited light. They did not meet environmental standards.They are currently in storage awaiting allocation to a scheme or schemes in one or more of our 33 conservation areas.They are not specifically earmarked for the Clifton area at this stage.”
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How can a simple lamp post "not meet environmental standards" in St Andrews, but could meet the environmental standards in Clifton? Are the two on different planets? As Confucius said, "Something does not compute."
Bob Evans, Anaheim, California
Maybe these lamps were earmarked for the antiques market, lining some city worker's pockets with what might have otherwise gone to the trash heap. But if it's just a case of more lumens, I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find suitable replacement bulbs, rather than tearing out the whole fixture.
Loretta, Virginia Beach, VA, United States
The smallest villages in France are installing copies of 19th-century cast-iron street-lamps, complete with the municipal arms. They're obviously not expensive. If the more fashionable areas need something retro to park their beamers under, why devalue a less prosperous area?
John, PREUSCHDORF, France
st andrews is a realtively quite residential area - with little car crime
plus no evidence was provided to show that improved lighting will reduce what crime there was
somehow the lights are going to work far more efficently in upmarket areas
simon, bristol,
Ealing Council is planning to remove cast iron lampposts from the Brentham Garden Suburb Conservation Area and resite them in a newly designated Heritage Zone, not a conservation area.
Heather, Ealing,
Yeh but St. Andrews needs lots of lighting clifton doesn't. Mirroring other situations the poor communities harbour (not necessarily commit) an awful lot more crime. Ergo fit the needed type of lighting, maybe this poor area doesn't deserve or appreciate old fashioned lighting.
Tom, Epsom, UK
30 cast iron lamp posts going to 33 conservation areas.....neat trick that...
Hmmm.....wonder how many coucillors live in these 'up market' areas......
Andy, worthing, uk
If they only give off limited light, then they're obviously going to still give off the same light when they're moved to the conservation area, or am i missing something.
Maybe the conservation area has extra floodlighting?
keith, bristol, uk
If they don't meet environmental standards in St Andrews, how are they suddenly going to meet them somewhere else?
David Leslie, Perth, Scotland
Cheshire county council dug up cobbles from my village of Bollington to give to Prestbury 5 miles away (where wayne rooney lives).
Bollington isn't excatlly poor but it doesn't have footballers.
Lucie, Macclesfield,